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Why won’t the GOP establishment let Ted Cruz


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Posted 23 September 2013 - 07:42 PM

The Washington Post said:


As we head into the week that will help determine whether House Republicans stick to their crusade to defund or delay Obamacare, which could result in a government shutdown and possibly default after that, Senator Ted Cruz has penned a new op ed piece for Real Clear Politics that provides new clues to where all of this is headed.

Embedded in Cruz’s op ed is a tacit admission that his scheme may well fail. But never fear — Cruz has figured out a way to keep right on blaming House Republicans, and the GOP establishment, if and when that happens.

As you know, House Republicans have passed a bill temporarily funding the government at current sequester levels while defunding Obamacare. Senate Dems are likely to amend that bill to strip out the Obamacare defunding and send it back to the House. But Cruz says that doesn’t have to happen. Cruz is calling on Senate Republicans to stand united in filibustering this bill before Reid can pass any changes to it via a simple majority vote:

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So, we are about to witness the worst case scenario: the transformation of the hill from tragedy to comedy.

Way to go guys, way to go (and that is both sides of the aisle).

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:29 PM

It's all an act to look good for their anti-Obamacare supporters, gotta put on a show if they want to retain their positions next election cycle. Most people know, the only way to completely rid Obamacare is to have a majority of republicans in the house and senate, as well as a republican president. Not gonna happen, until all three of those happen first.

They're just getting those against Obamacare hopes up, for nothing. Pure bluffing is what it is.

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Posted 23 September 2013 - 08:34 PM

View PostPurifier, on 23 September 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

It's all an act to look good for their anti-Obamacare supporters, gotta put on a show if they want to retain their positions next election cycle. Most people know, the only way to completely rid Obamacare is to have a majority of republicans in the house and senate, as well as a republican president. Not gonna happen, until all three of those happen first.

They're just getting those against Obamacare hopes up, for nothing. Pure bluffing is what it is.

Quite, but they think that most in the country are too stupid to notice.

And that makes it kind of repugnant.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:23 PM

In related news:

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How Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn busted Ted Cruz’s Obamacare bubble

The lonely road Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is walking down just got even lonelier.

The top two Republicans in the Senate made clear Monday they will not join Cruz’s call for a filibuster of a government funding bill that cleared the House last week. Their decisions signaled that the fiery freshman’s plan isn’t good politics even for Republicans facing conservative primary threats and reinforced a widely held view that it won’t work in practice.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:45 PM

Ted Cruz is political suicide, and probably supporting bad policy anyway.  That is too much for normal politicians.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:14 PM

I don't think Cruz has any delusions about getting his way. What he's doing is sticking to his guns and calling out the old dinosaurs in the party who have no spine or integrity while simultaneously representing the views of most of America. Cruz don't belong in the GOP. He has integrity.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:16 PM

View PostF3SS, on 24 September 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

I don't think Cruz has any delusions about getting his way. What he's doing is sticking to his guns and calling out the old dinosaurs in the party who have no spine or integrity while simultaneously representing the views of most of America. Cruz don't belong in the GOP. He has integrity.

The majority of Americans don't want to repeal Obamacare, they either want to keep it or they want a single payer model.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:21 PM

Really? 'Cause I have yet to meet anyone who wants anything to do with it. Anybody else either has no opinion or think it's free healthcare. Either way, the latter group is completely uninformed.

Edit: the only people up in arms about Cruz's position are MSMers and the establishment on the hill.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:27 PM

Another thing, the establishment won't let him defund it because for one they're all cronies on the same team putting on a good guy/bad guy stage show for US and second is that they don't have to abide by the law and I'm sure there's something in it for them all. Kickbacks, favors, bribes... The establishment will never live in the world they prescribe for you.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:44 PM

View PostF3SS, on 24 September 2013 - 07:14 PM, said:

I don't think Cruz has any delusions about getting his way. What he's doing is sticking to his guns and calling out the old dinosaurs in the party who have no spine or integrity while simultaneously representing the views of most of America. Cruz don't belong in the GOP. He has integrity.

He's keeping his campaign promise, which was to repeal Obamacare. He's just listening to his constituents, which is what they are supposed to do. I really hate the way Cuz is being railroaded by the establishment. Even his own party. Cornyn threw him under the bus today. Never voting for him again. Come 2014 he's out!

What really p***** me off, is the fact I called his office, to voice my displeasure, and the robot who anwsered the phone, was all, But he's against Obamacare.... :no:

Grow a pair, guys, come on......


View Postquestionmark, on 24 September 2013 - 07:16 PM, said:

The majority of Americans don't want to repeal Obamacare, they either want to keep it or they want a single payer model.

Actually, most of the people I know, hate Obamacare with a passion.

They either need to repeal it, and put a single payer system in effect, or fix it. As it stands right now, it is completely unworkable. This thing is going to train wreck so bad.....


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:49 PM

View PostBurt Gummer, on 24 September 2013 - 07:44 PM, said:

He's keeping his campaign promise, which was to repeal Obamacare. He's just listening to his constituents, which is what they are supposed to do. I really hate the way Cuz is being railroaded by the establishment. Even his own party. Cornyn threw him under the bus today. Never voting for him again. Come 2014 he's out!

What really p***** me off, is the fact I called his office, to voice my displeasure, and the robot who anwsered the phone, was all, But he's against Obamacare.... :no:

Grow a pair, guys, come on......




Actually, most of the people I know, hate Obamacare with a passion.

They either need to repeal it, and put a single payer system in effect, or fix it. As it stands right now, it is completely unworkable. This thing is going to train wreck so bad.....

That there is no single payer system (called the public option  in the draft of the law) is owed to the same people who are railroading Cruz now.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:49 PM

On a brighter note, just got the email from my insurer...my insurance is going up $48 next year.  Less of an increase than the past three years!  Thank you Obamacare!


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:50 PM

View PostAgent0range, on 24 September 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

On a brighter note, just got the email from my insurer...my insurance is going up $48 next year.  Less of an increase than the past three years!  Thank you Obamacare!

Then I take it you are  not living in NY? Their insurance is set to go down.

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

Nope, not living in New York.  I do have some pretty good insurance though and pay about $1000 per year for a family of 4.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 07:55 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 24 September 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

That there is no single payer system (called the public option  in the draft of the law) is owed to the same people who are railroading Cruz now.

Which makes me think some of these dinosaur Republicans are going to be getting kickbacks from the insurance companies.....





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