Why won’t the GOP establishment let Ted Cruz

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As we head into the week that will help determine whether House Republicans stick to their crusade to defund or delay Obamacare, which could result in a government shutdown and possibly default after that, Senator Ted Cruz has penned a new op ed piece for Real Clear Politics that provides new clues to where all of this is headed.

Embedded in Cruz’s op ed is a tacit admission that his scheme may well fail. But never fear — Cruz has figured out a way to keep right on blaming House Republicans, and the GOP establishment, if and when that happens.

As you know, House Republicans have passed a bill temporarily funding the government at current sequester levels while defunding Obamacare. Senate Dems are likely to amend that bill to strip out the Obamacare defunding and send it back to the House. But Cruz says that doesn’t have to happen. Cruz is calling on Senate Republicans to stand united in filibustering this bill before Reid can pass any changes to it via a simple majority vote:

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So, we are about to witness the worst case scenario: the transformation of the hill from tragedy to comedy.

Way to go guys, way to go (and that is both sides of the aisle).

[Gunn]

It's all an act to look good for their anti-Obamacare supporters, gotta put on a show if they want to retain their positions next election cycle. Most people know, the only way to completely rid Obamacare is to have a majority of republicans in the house and senate, as well as a republican president. Not gonna happen, until all three of those happen first.

They're just getting those against Obamacare hopes up, for nothing. Pure bluffing is what it is.

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It's all an act to look good for their anti-Obamacare supporters, gotta put on a show if they want to retain their positions next election cycle. Most people know, the only way to completely rid Obamacare is to have a majority of republicans in the house and senate, as well as a republican president. Not gonna happen, until all three of those happen first.

They're just getting those against Obamacare hopes up, for nothing. Pure bluffing is what it is.

Quite, but they think that most in the country are too stupid to notice.

And that makes it kind of repugnant.

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In related news:

How Mitch McConnell and John Cornyn busted Ted Cruz’s Obamacare bubble

The lonely road Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) is walking down just got even lonelier.

The top two Republicans in the Senate made clear Monday they will not join Cruz’s call for a filibuster of a government funding bill that cleared the House last week. Their decisions signaled that the fiery freshman’s plan isn’t good politics even for Republicans facing conservative primary threats and reinforced a widely held view that it won’t work in practice.

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[Frank Merton]

Ted Cruz is political suicide, and probably supporting bad policy anyway. That is too much for normal politicians.

[F3SS]

I don't think Cruz has any delusions about getting his way. What he's doing is sticking to his guns and calling out the old dinosaurs in the party who have no spine or integrity while simultaneously representing the views of most of America. Cruz don't belong in the GOP. He has integrity.

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I don't think Cruz has any delusions about getting his way. What he's doing is sticking to his guns and calling out the old dinosaurs in the party who have no spine or integrity while simultaneously representing the views of most of America. Cruz don't belong in the GOP. He has integrity.

The majority of Americans don't want to repeal Obamacare, they either want to keep it or they want a single payer model.

[F3SS]

Really? 'Cause I have yet to meet anyone who wants anything to do with it. Anybody else either has no opinion or think it's free healthcare. Either way, the latter group is completely uninformed.

Edit: the only people up in arms about Cruz's position are MSMers and the establishment on the hill.

Edited September 24, 2013 by F3SS

[F3SS]

Another thing, the establishment won't let him defund it because for one they're all cronies on the same team putting on a good guy/bad guy stage show for US and second is that they don't have to abide by the law and I'm sure there's something in it for them all. Kickbacks, favors, bribes... The establishment will never live in the world they prescribe for you.

[Kowalski]

I don't think Cruz has any delusions about getting his way. What he's doing is sticking to his guns and calling out the old dinosaurs in the party who have no spine or integrity while simultaneously representing the views of most of America. Cruz don't belong in the GOP. He has integrity.

He's keeping his campaign promise, which was to repeal Obamacare. He's just listening to his constituents, which is what they are supposed to do. I really hate the way Cuz is being railroaded by the establishment. Even his own party. Cornyn threw him under the bus today. Never voting for him again. Come 2014 he's out!

What really p***** me off, is the fact I called his office, to voice my displeasure, and the robot who anwsered the phone, was all, But he's against Obamacare....

Grow a pair, guys, come on......

The majority of Americans don't want to repeal Obamacare, they either want to keep it or they want a single payer model.

Actually, most of the people I know, hate Obamacare with a passion.

They either need to repeal it, and put a single payer system in effect, or fix it. As it stands right now, it is completely unworkable. This thing is going to train wreck so bad.....

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He's keeping his campaign promise, which was to repeal Obamacare. He's just listening to his constituents, which is what they are supposed to do. I really hate the way Cuz is being railroaded by the establishment. Even his own party. Cornyn threw him under the bus today. Never voting for him again. Come 2014 he's out!

What really p***** me off, is the fact I called his office, to voice my displeasure, and the robot who anwsered the phone, was all, But he's against Obamacare....

Grow a pair, guys, come on......

Actually, most of the people I know, hate Obamacare with a passion.

They either need to repeal it, and put a single payer system in effect, or fix it. As it stands right now, it is completely unworkable. This thing is going to train wreck so bad.....

That there is no single payer system (called the public option in the draft of the law) is owed to the same people who are railroading Cruz now.

[Agent0range]

On a brighter note, just got the email from my insurer...my insurance is going up $48 next year. Less of an increase than the past three years! Thank you Obamacare!

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On a brighter note, just got the email from my insurer...my insurance is going up $48 next year. Less of an increase than the past three years! Thank you Obamacare!

Then I take it you are not living in NY? Their insurance is set to go down.

[Agent0range]

Nope, not living in New York. I do have some pretty good insurance though and pay about $1000 per year for a family of 4.

[Kowalski]

That there is no single payer system (called the public option in the draft of the law) is owed to the same people who are railroading Cruz now.

Which makes me think some of these dinosaur Republicans are going to be getting kickbacks from the insurance companies.....

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Which makes me think some of these dinosaur Republicans are going to be getting kickbacks from the insurance companies.....

That is called "campaign contribution". Now sit on your chair and write that 1000 times!

[Drayno]

Cruz is making one heck of a speech.

[Kowalski]

Cruz is making one heck of a speech.

God Bless That man!

Watching right now....

David vs. Goliath......

You can watch here:

Link: http://www.c-span.org/Events/Sen-Cruz-Debates-CR-Defunding-Health-Care-Law/10737441638-1/

Edited September 24, 2013 by Burt Gummer

[Drayno]

God Bless That man!

Watching right now....

David vs. Goliath......

I take any thing any politician says at face-value.

However, I believe Cruz is making a speech for the right reasons and is exercising his words out of necessity because of his values.

[Kowalski]

I take any thing any politician says at face-value.

However, I believe Cruz is making a speech for the right reasons and is exercising his words out of necessity because of his values.

You mean, you don't take anything any politician says at face value, right?

I don't either, but I believe Ted Cruz is keeping his campaign promises, and he's just fighting for his constituents. So many people, are hurting because of Obamacare. The very same people who should be helped by it.

[F3SS]

Guys like Cruz need to form a new party. They're tainting themsleves being a part of the GOP. They'll never get the party back to whatever "it used to be". Let the establishment have the party. Separate from them and shove their establishment heads up their establishment asses. Form a new party. Show the differences.

[Drayno]

You mean, you don't take anything any politician says at face value, right?

I don't either, but I believe Ted Cruz is keeping his campaign promises, and he's just fighting for his constituents. So many people, are hurting because of Obamacare. The very same people who should be helped by it.

I'm glad you caught my internet-sarcasm.

Guys like Cruz need to form a new party. They're tainting themsleves being a part of the GOP. They'll never get the party back to whatever "it used to be". Let the establishment have the party. Separate from them and shove their establishment heads up their establishment asses. Form a new party. Show the differences.

How that hypothetical party would fair, I have no idea.

[F3SS]

How that hypothetical party would fair, I have no idea.

Well ones got to start somewhere or we are forever stuck with the two parties we have now and if there were ever a time and a person Cruz has got the gusto to do it.

[Drayno]

Well ones got to start somewhere or we are forever stuck with the two parties we have now and if there were ever a time and a person Cruz has got the gusto to do it.

I agree that the two parties don't really serve the people.

It's all a staged show with the Republicans and Democrats.

Both, in my opinion, are stupid and evil - or a combination of both.

The problem with a third party is the MSM would ignore it or demonize it.

[Frank Merton]

Really? 'Cause I have yet to meet anyone who wants anything to do with it. Anybody else either has no opinion or think it's free healthcare. Either way, the latter group is completely uninformed.

Edit: the only people up in arms about Cruz's position are MSMers and the establishment on the hill.

It occurs to me that your information is rather one-sided and dogmatic. Clearly changes are needed. I don't know about a single-payer plan -- I live in socialist Vietnam and although the government has health insurance companies and owns some hospitals and clinics, private entities do also in competition. A diversity of plans seems to suit most people even when the choices don't mean much.