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#1    Ligia Cabus

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 07:52 PM

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IT HAPPENED IN THE UNITED STATE IN 1985. It was dawn, 3 am. Robert White or Bob, told the program Tercer Milenio (Jaime Maussan) who drove his car on the highway between the states of Utah and Colorado when was faced with a strong light on the track.

Suddenly took flight and joined the other lights that were hovering in the sky. However, White could see that something flew off or was, perhaps, thrown from one of the ufos or from one of the points of light.  It was the mysterious stone of Colorado.

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Published on Jul 2, 2013.




Edited by Ligia Cabus, 26 September 2013 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 08:19 PM

Heres another one, with two horns, no ufo involved

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Old story and debunked some time ago.

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"Our expert Ean Harrison is a retired steel foundry quality control supervisor who worked in the Seattle area. Not only can he explain the origin of Bob White’s strange object, he once owned several of them and used them as garden ornaments. Harrison writes:

The object in question is made of accreted grinding residue. It forms in a manner similar to a common stalagmite when metal castings are “cleaned” on large stationary grinders. Rough castings need to have the parting line fins and gates smoothed to facilitate machining and reduce tool breakage. A typical stationary grinder in a foundry cleaning room used to hand clean castings up to 40 pounds may have a composite wheel 3 feet in diameter and 4 inches wide or larger.

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:15 PM

I thought that the thing was the tail of an armadillo but when I read the text and taking notice that the object is metallic, I had to give up that idea.


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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:44 PM

View PostLigia Cabus, on 26 September 2013 - 09:15 PM, said:

I thought that the thing was the tail of an armadillo but when I read the text and taking notice that the object is metallic, I had to give up that idea.

It just goes to show how unreliable these ufo stories are, when placed under scrutiny doesnt it? If he just touted his find around as 'interesting' it may never have gained much attention. But...add the strange lights/ufo in the sky to it, and something falling from the ufo....

And it convinces many people! :tu:

For a while anyway :lol:



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Posted 26 September 2013 - 11:53 PM

View Postseeder, on 26 September 2013 - 08:19 PM, said:

Heres another one, with two horns, no ufo involved

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Old story and debunked some time ago.

quote:

"Our expert Ean Harrison is a retired steel foundry quality control supervisor who worked in the Seattle area. Not only can he explain the origin of Bob White’s strange object, he once owned several of them and used them as garden ornaments. Harrison writes:

The object in question is made of accreted grinding residue. It forms in a manner similar to a common stalagmite when metal castings are “cleaned” on large stationary grinders. Rough castings need to have the parting line fins and gates smoothed to facilitate machining and reduce tool breakage. A typical stationary grinder in a foundry cleaning room used to hand clean castings up to 40 pounds may have a composite wheel 3 feet in diameter and 4 inches wide or larger.

http://www.skeptic.c...eptic/11-10-12/



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half my life ago, I worked with an industrial sized grinder at the old spring and wire factory. We had to clean it at the end of the day and seeing those stalactites for the first time does kind of take you by surprise.
It's obvious to anyone who is familiar with the process what we're looking at here.



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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:24 AM

Depleted electric arc furnace electrode...Attached File  FoundryElectrode.jpg   91.16K   114 downloads


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:34 AM

View Postmeteorlima, on 27 September 2013 - 02:24 AM, said:

Depleted electric arc furnace electrode...Attachment FoundryElectrode.jpg

Nice find :tu:

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 03:47 PM

Just a few slight queries.

If Bob White was trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by picking up commonly available residue from an arc furnace and making a fraudulent claim about it then do you not think he would be expecting his deception to be exposed?

Even if he found it by the roadside and hatched the devious plan without knowing that it was commonly available material he would in anyone's mind be taking a huge risk.

So that doesn't make a bit of sense to me.

Far more likely it happened the way he said it did.  The object dropped from some unidentified craft as it flew away at amazingly high speed.  From the following clip he saw "a huge light the size of a 3 storey building".  It then connected with two tubular looking objects.  It then ejected a glowing hot object which he then tracked down.  It was still glowing hot when he located it on the ground.  It made a groove in the ground as it landed at high speed.

Dr Robert Gibbons examined the artifact.  Unexplained EM phenomena occurred around the object.  The object exposed film that confirms that the object was emitting some unknown kind of radiation.  Evidence of a cover up; scientists afraid to discuss it.  Chris Ellis (physicist) who specialises in aluminium alloys and semi-conductors, was quoted as saying that the object was "extremely extraordinary" and he had never seen anything like it before.  He confirms that it is an "alluminium alloy of unknown origin"...........etc

David Lamb is a research scientist specialising in physics and material scientist.  He confirms that the object has unique crystal and material compositions different to normally found say in aircraft alloys or elsewhere.






Listen to the scientists for yourselves.

So do we have a case for saying Bob White is a hoaxer on the basis that his recovered object looks like an arc furnace artifact?  I think that is more than a little obtuse.  Are we saying that UFO's have no capability to discharge high power voltages to produce these artifacts?  It may be part of their propulsion system.

So I see no debunk here.  Even if a material composition breakdown was provided (which itself would need to be proved to be genuine), that seemed to indicate like for like composition with known material that would not be enough.  The reason is that experts did examine it and said that it had no known common analogue; and more importantly :

Bob White's testimony has never been proven to be fraudulent.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 05:29 PM

So we have a known artifact of industrial manufacturing.

And yet Zoser can still claim with a straight face that the item is some kind of discharge from an interstellar spacecraft.

Even believers have to be able to claim BS at some point.  Believers love to claim that while 95% of sightings are bogus, there is always that 5% that are unexplainable.  But by believing and defending EVERYTHING, they quickly lose credibility.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:52 PM

Well said :tu:

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 11:28 PM

View Postzoser, on 28 September 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

Just a few slight queries.

If Bob White was trying to pull the wool over people's eyes by picking up commonly available residue from an arc furnace and making a fraudulent claim about it then do you not think he would be expecting his deception to be exposed?
Because it's a residue from a single machine, used by a few people, in an single industry.
Hell, I'd never seen anything like it before. If it wasn't for the other posters saying "it's a wigwham for a goose's bridle" I'd still be in the dark beyond "maybe it's a meteorite".
And it's from a PRE-INTERNET day and age.

You have to remember, Billy Meier thought photographs of singers from the Dean Martin Show could be passed off as aliens.
At least this guy's got something that looks genuinely alienesque.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:22 AM

View PostRafterman, on 28 September 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:

So we have a known artifact of industrial manufacturing.


In your images yes.  We have no evidence that Bob White's sample came from an arc furnace.  If you have please provide that evidence.

View PostRafterman, on 28 September 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:


And yet Zoser can still claim with a straight face that the item is some kind of discharge from an interstellar spacecraft.


No.  Watch and listen to the experts commenting on the sample.  I gave you the clips.  Listen to them and rather than ignore key evidence.

View PostRafterman, on 28 September 2013 - 05:29 PM, said:


Even believers have to be able to claim BS at some point.  Believers love to claim that while 95% of sightings are bogus, there is always that 5% that are unexplainable.  But by believing and defending EVERYTHING, they quickly lose credibility.

The BS if there is any lies in the theory that Bob White picked up a common artifact and tried to sell it as ET.  The evidence says that never happened.  Of course of you ignore the evidence then any fantasy is possible.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 10:08 AM

and zosers responses, in spite of REAL EVIDENCE, clearly show everyone that he is a total waste of anyone's time, to bother  responding to. The man who has been owned more times than anyone here, has only one objective . To brainwash himself with youtube vids and then to come here and try to brainwash everyone else, while ignoring real facts and verifiable evidence.

One more time. Verifiable evidence. As with the 'alien stone'... which many  here have pointed out is an man made waste product from industry..  BUT OH NO! Not zoser, oh no the master of nothing will not accept any earthly explanation. Which folks - means.... its pointless conversing with him. Pointless, fruitless, waste of anyone's time and energy.

So who will chose to keep up the idiocy with zoser and his manic obsessive ramblings?

I say again, zoser is ufology's big disaster. People like him make the whole subject seem the domain of cranks. he doesn't investigate, he doesn't research, so he doesnt really want to get to the bottom of anything...he just wants to believe in his vids and dubious ufo websites...he just hangs on the BS words of the fools in the HC/UFO hunters vids.. Ignorant to a high degree


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Edited by seeder, 29 September 2013 - 10:14 AM.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 12:10 PM

View Postseeder, on 29 September 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:


and zosers responses, in spite of REAL EVIDENCE, clearly show everyone that he is a total waste of anyone's time, to bother  responding to. The man who has been owned more times than anyone here, has only one objective . To brainwash himself with youtube vids and then to come here and try to brainwash everyone else, while ignoring real facts and verifiable evidence.

What 'real evidence'?

You haven't presented any.  Just posting a photo of residue from an arc furnace in no way debunks Bob White's claim.

The high power voltage required to to create the molten artifact is most probably a feature of the craft's propulsion system.  What else could it be?  

That's why I say listen to the scientists who originally examined the artifact. There is no conspiracy or hoaxing here that I can see.  If  you find one please let me know.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:02 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 September 2013 - 07:22 AM, said:



In your images yes.  We have no evidence that Bob White's sample came from an arc furnace.  If you have please provide that evidence.



No.  Watch and listen to the experts commenting on the sample.  I gave you the clips.  Listen to them and rather than ignore key evidence.



The BS if there is any lies in the theory that Bob White picked up a common artifact and tried to sell it as ET.  The evidence says that never happened.  Of course of you ignore the evidence then any fantasy is possible.

So let's recap shall we?

-We know what the item is.
-The item has been tested and found to be composed of fairly mundane earthly elements.
-The only folks claiming it is alien are UFO believers and conspiracy nuts.

To buy into your story, one has to believe that the world-wide scientific community that spends billions of dollars a year exploring our cosmos and searching for signs of alien life (and desperately wants to find it I might add) would have had to completely ignore this monumental discovery for the past three decades.  Does that make sense to you?  It doesn't to me.

And let us for a minute accept  the notion that the item is what it is and that "science" and the government is trying to discredit and/or ignore such evidence.  Why then is Bob White still alive and talking?  Why is the artifact sitting in a former video store turned "museum" 12 miles outside of Branson, Missouri?  If one believes UFO lore, shouldn't the Men in Black have 'silenced' him years ago and taken the item to Area 51 or some such place?  



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