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[Merged] Does MMR Vaccine cause Autism ?


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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:36 PM

After decades of passionate debate, parents probably missed the repeated admissions by drug companies and governments alike that vaccines do in fact cause autism. For concerned parents seeking the truth, it’s worth remembering that the exact same people who own the world’s drug companies also own America’s news outlets. Finding propaganda-free information has been difficult, until now.

http://www.whydontyo...ses-autism.html

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:42 PM

because MMR  was a common factor in children with Autism?
Of course thst was a commom factor, the vast majority of children are immunised.

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:48 PM

I'm sure that the justice system is the be all end all of all scientific debates.

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 09:51 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 26 September 2013 - 09:42 PM, said:

because MMR  was a common factor in children with Autism?
Of course thst was a commom factor, the vast majority of children are immunised.

With that logic lets blaim oxygen. They all breath oxygen right?

I reject your reality, and substitute my own! Mostly because yours is boring as hell.

#5    Sir Wearer of Hats

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 10:17 PM

Apropos of Nothing - I'm actually living in the centre of an outbreak of Measles, schools have been sending kids home etc.
Noone has died yet, despite the number of infections. Why is that I wonder ....

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:25 AM

OH OH OH I KNOW PICK ME!

people are stupid <_<

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:35 AM

Like I said elsewhere, humans seem to have built-in instict to avoid the best for their interest.

They came with a Bible and their religion. stole our land, crushed our spirit, and now they tell us we should be thankful to the Lord for being saved.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:06 AM

View PostBig Bad Voodoo, on 26 September 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

After decades of passionate debate, parents probably missed the repeated admissions by drug companies and governments alike that vaccines do in fact cause autism. For concerned parents seeking the truth, it’s worth remembering that the exact same people who own the world’s drug companies also own America’s news outlets. Finding propaganda-free information has been difficult, until now.

http://www.whydontyo...ses-autism.html

That junk article supports Wakefield who long ago admitted that he faked his work. He faked the data to support his source of money: lawyers involved in a lawsuit.

Wakefield also faked the data for other papers he published. He lost his medical license because he also endangered children when he collected samples.

That fraud can whine all he wants today about being reprimanded, but he deserved it.

The Wakefield paper that had to be retracted by the Lancet had this to say:
"We did not prove an association between measles, mumps, and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described. Virological studies are underway that may help to resolve this issue."

Wakefield's 1993 paper on Crohn's was found to be faked. His 2002 paper turned out to have used  a DNA test to locate RNA - not a valid test.

With an article which glorifies a fraud I doubt it is telling the truth in any form.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:11 AM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 26 September 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

Apropos of Nothing - I'm actually living in the centre of an outbreak of Measles, schools have been sending kids home etc.
Noone has died yet, despite the number of infections. Why is that I wonder ....

The reason is simple. Deaths from measles are rare.


#10    Sir Wearer of Hats

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:58 AM

View Poststereologist, on 27 September 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

The reason is simple. Deaths from measles are rare.
Not if you haven't been immunised.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
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Only I will remain.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:02 AM

I thought there was already a theme on this subject.  Why a new one?


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:26 AM

I am now just avoiding any topics started by Big Bad Voodoo.  It's getting ridiculous.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:28 AM

Oh well 'cept this one obviously as I have just read it and posted :blush:   But from here onwards I will now avoid the OP's topics, starting.... now


#14    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:09 AM

The graph illustrates the link between the MMR vaccine and the rise in autism.

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http://www.collectiv...ines-to-autism/

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 08:14 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 27 September 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

I thought there was already a theme on this subject.  Why a new one?

Maybe the antivac crowd think if they shout enough they'll be right.

I reject your reality, and substitute my own! Mostly because yours is boring as hell.




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