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#1    ambelamba

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:06 PM

One absurd but interesting claim is that humans are abundant around the Galaxy. Well, it's a bit of some wishful thinking I guess.

The obvious example is Nordics. Usually depicted as teh good guys but I wonder why they always should be Astro Gringos. :D Probably many UFOlogists will get a heart attack if the good guys turn out to be more like Space Brothas than Space Brothers. (bwahahahaha) And don't get me started on Space Sistas.

But we know that humans being common around the galaxy is beyond impossible. I read an article about simulating evolution with supercomputers, and the result was very interesting and depressing at the same time. The simulations came up with plethora of models with really bizarre shapes and forms. (I think the source article is from Scientific American.) If human-looking aliens are ever possible, then there has to be some explanations. Maybe paleocontact hypothesis was real. Speaking of which, I am very resentful of those so-called ancient alien scholars because they are the ones who kills any remaining credibility of it, if there's any.

So why paleocontact hypothesis? Why can't we assume that aliens actually picked up some useful specimen of early homo sapiens and took them to space?

Actually I've been trying to write a novel about this, but unfortunately English is absolutely not my primary language. And I can't even decide if I should make the story either a screwball comedy or a dead serious action novel. Basically this is the bare skeleton plot: Aliens who descended from earliest humans invade Earth without the approval of Galactic Elders. Since they had to assemble the fleet without proper approval, they come with rather pathetic shape. The alien race is basically one of the police force of our galaxy and...they are powerful and numerous enough to go head to head with Zentradi from Robotech universe. (Wiki them. You will see that Zentradi are one of the largest military force ever conceived in sci-fi universes.) But without the proper procedure and budget they come in a bad shape. Even worse, much of their fleet was decimated by some unknown defense mechanism around the Earth. Half of them manages to retreat but some of them drop to Earth, struggling to survive. And it's their story, a story of 16 young men who volunteered for the sacred pilgrimage to their ancient homeworld. Basically it's like alien version of Band of Brothers with giant robots....:D


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:59 PM

I find it hard to believe that homo sapiens is the pinacle of evolution.... sound more like some religious crap that anything else.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:21 PM

Its the only body design thats functional for complex tool use and activities that allow for a species to become a technologicl civilization.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:05 PM

View Postlost_shaman, on 27 September 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Its the only body design thats functional for complex tool use and activities that allow for a species to become a technologicl civilization.

hehe...I know this vid winds people up....but I like it. Its about evolution and the humanoid form! Just something else to think about. Stick with it - for the first part is a silly puppet, and its just a couple minutes long




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Edited by seeder, 27 September 2013 - 11:07 PM.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 12:34 AM

Love that video seeder :yes:

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:49 AM

View Postambelamba, on 27 September 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

One absurd but interesting claim is that humans are abundant around the Galaxy. Well, it's a bit of some wishful thinking I guess.

The obvious example is Nordics. Usually depicted as teh good guys but I wonder why they always should be Astro Gringos. :D Probably many UFOlogists will get a heart attack if the good guys turn out to be more like Space Brothas than Space Brothers. (bwahahahaha) And don't get me started on Space Sistas.

But we know that humans being common around the galaxy is beyond impossible. I read an article about simulating evolution with supercomputers, and the result was very interesting and depressing at the same time. The simulations came up with plethora of models with really bizarre shapes and forms. (I think the source article is from Scientific American.) If human-looking aliens are ever possible, then there has to be some explanations. Maybe paleocontact hypothesis was real. Speaking of which, I am very resentful of those so-called ancient alien scholars because they are the ones who kills any remaining credibility of it, if there's any.

So why paleocontact hypothesis? Why can't we assume that aliens actually picked up some useful specimen of early homo sapiens and took them to space?

Actually I've been trying to write a novel about this, but unfortunately English is absolutely not my primary language. And I can't even decide if I should make the story either a screwball comedy or a dead serious action novel. Basically this is the bare skeleton plot: Aliens who descended from earliest humans invade Earth without the approval of Galactic Elders. Since they had to assemble the fleet without proper approval, they come with rather pathetic shape. The alien race is basically one of the police force of our galaxy and...they are powerful and numerous enough to go head to head with Zentradi from Robotech universe. (Wiki them. You will see that Zentradi are one of the largest military force ever conceived in sci-fi universes.) But without the proper procedure and budget they come in a bad shape. Even worse, much of their fleet was decimated by some unknown defense mechanism around the Earth. Half of them manages to retreat but some of them drop to Earth, struggling to survive. And it's their story, a story of 16 young men who volunteered for the sacred pilgrimage to their ancient homeworld. Basically it's like alien version of Band of Brothers with giant robots.... :D

It's funny, because a similar story you'll heard off in the history of the Sumerian people, and their Gods, which were descending aliens from Nibiru... creating them to work the land extracting metals. Later this story has been taken by Babylonians and after by Semitic tribes (old Jewish) and fractural imported in the Bible (old testament). In the Book of Enoch (Noa's grandfather) there’ is much more as apparently he was taken by God on his planet and there’s numerous descriptions of technologies as seen by the eye of someone that lived over 6000 years ago.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:53 AM

forgot the most important part;

◄ Genesis 1:27

"So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them."


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 03:16 AM

Before the TV Show Ancient Aliens was on TV i had done a lot of research on Ancient Cultures(Because i was bored :whistle:, ).  Mostly reading up on it through the Wikipedia articles on the Mythology. And i noticed one common feature is that most of these creature myths regarding the Gods all came down to man, and taught us how to do ****. I then decided to google the term "Ancient Aliens", and to my surprise i am not the only one who came to that conclusion. That man was visited by Aliens in the Ancient Past.

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Speaking of which, I am very resentful of those so-called ancient alien scholars because they are the ones who kills any remaining credibility of it, if there's any.

200 years ago people said we would never go to the Moon, let alone get a man into orbit or even have the power to fly. We can do all of that now and more due to the advancement of technology. So try and have a open mind when it comes to these types of theories, and the people actively studying it may be onto something. There are many Missing Links out there in Archaeology, and the Human Race has been trying to rediscover are Ancient Race. As we seem to have a bad case of Amnesia as a Species.

Edited by stevemagegod, 28 September 2013 - 03:17 AM.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 03:32 AM

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Its the only body design thats functional for complex tool use and activities that allow for a species to become a technologicl civilization.

I agree. I think any Aliens capable to technology would have to have a similar anatomical structure as humans. Perhaps only as far as hands and fingers and appendages for mobility. I suppose that leaves a wide range of possible bodily appearances, but specific anatomical capabilities for tool making in my view would be essential.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 03:53 AM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 28 September 2013 - 03:32 AM, said:

I agree. I think any Aliens capable to technology would have to have a similar anatomical structure as humans. Perhaps only as far as hands and fingers and appendages for mobility. I suppose that leaves a wide range of possible bodily appearances, but specific anatomical capabilities for tool making in my view would be essential.

That is exactly what I said in a similar tread. Well said, there must be an universal apearance in order to become inteligent and conquer tehnologies. In other words humanoid.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:01 AM

Well, we know for a fact that there are in fact humans around in the galaxy. Case closed?

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:03 AM

View Postqxcontinuum, on 28 September 2013 - 03:53 AM, said:

That is exactly what I said in a similar tread. Well said, there must be an universal apearance in order to become inteligent and conquer tehnologies. In other words humanoid.

So other animals on Earth aren't intelligent?? I believe dolphins are just as smart as humans, Just because they live with nature and not bulldoze over it doesn't mean they aren't smart.
1 big thing I've worked out that I can't shake to make the argument that humans didn't naturally evolve on Earth is that everything that seemingly evolved on Earth lives with nature, but humans....we destroy it to expand and grow without learning to live with nature.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:12 AM

View Postlost_shaman, on 27 September 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Its the only body design thats functional for complex tool use and activities that allow for a species to become a technologicl civilization.
other then squids - which are capable of complex manipulation of objects.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:21 AM

View Postlost_shaman, on 27 September 2013 - 10:21 PM, said:

Its the only body design thats functional for complex tool use and activities that allow for a species to become a technologicl civilization.
Really?  I doubt that very very much.  I can think of all sorts of ways a little redesign would make us function better.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 04:23 AM

I think the optimal design would be a coin-shaped mass maybe three meters around and a meter thick with lots of small feet holding it up and no end of appendages on its top and sides for sensing and manipulating, and of course a few orifices here and there for those needs.  It could even have green surfaces for photosynthesis.





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