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#1    ambelamba

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 02:37 PM

I started to wonder if John of Patmos indeed saw a vision of future.

Except that the visions were not about one single continuous event. I wonder if he saw bunch of different visions about vastly different time periods and thought that they were all connected together, and he was wrong. What he saw were a bunch of non-related future events that just poured into his feeble brain like metaphysical buckcake. (hahaha)


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 08:16 PM

Or perhaps he was merely a religious zealot and full of delirium dreams caused by fasting and flagellation??

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:57 PM

Ambelamba,

Revelation 1:3  "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 01:29 AM

View PostOgbin, on 28 September 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Ambelamba,

Revelation 1:3  "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
Someone can quote verses.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 04:22 AM

View PostOgbin, on 28 September 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Ambelamba,

Revelation 1:3  "Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand."
Well the time that was at hand has been at hand for a fair while now.
Is it more at hand today then it was when John wrote what he did?

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:03 PM

Revelation is very orderly and understandable. "For the time is at hand..." is later broken down into 3 eras given Rev. 1:19: (1) write the things thou has seen concerning the events up to that time which he did when he wrote Rev. 12; (2) write things that presently are concerning the 7 churches and God's message to them; and (3) the things that shall be hereafter, which is end time prophecy.

Every time the angel said to John, come up here - - it was like climbing to the top of a hill or mountain to see what was happening on the other side. Every time John went up to heaven he could see the events that were going to happen in the future.
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Posted 30 September 2013 - 02:15 PM

Mushroom soup :rolleyes: .

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:14 PM

Sir Wearer of Hats,

Yes I do believe that the time is at hand, more now than when John wrote the book Revelation. Since the death, resurrection and ascension of Christ Jesus, every generation has said Christ is going to return in their time. However this generation is seeing all the signs happening at once, unlike all the other generations before it. The book of Daniel and the book of Revelation are now being understood for the first time since they were written. The state of mind towards Israel is getting worse. Nations and peoples that were written about thousands of years ago are seen today aligning themselves against Israel just as written. And the fact that Israel is a nation once again after two thousands years is just amazing, in fact it's a Miricle.


edit: The reason for prophey is this,  John 14:29  "And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe."

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Edited by Ogbin, 30 September 2013 - 10:41 PM.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 02:46 AM

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And the fact that Israel is a nation once again after two thousands years is just amazing, in fact it's a Miricle.

A miracle?  Not so much.  More like a mandate from the United Nations in 1948

http://www.theocracy...srael_forms.htm

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 02:50 AM

View PostJMPD1, on 01 October 2013 - 02:46 AM, said:

A miracle?  Not so much.  More like a mandate from the United Nations in 1948

http://www.theocracy...srael_forms.htm
People do manage to make events fit whatever fantasy they have in front of them if they want to.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 03:35 AM

View PostCopen, on 30 September 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

Revelation is very orderly and understandable. "For the time is at hand..." is later broken down into 3 eras given Rev. 1:19: (1) write the things thou has seen concerning the events up to that time which he did when he wrote Rev. 12; (2) write things that presently are concerning the 7 churches and God's message to them; and (3) the things that shall be hereafter, which is end time prophecy.

-snip. sorry.-

Are you suuuuure? Seriously, have to tried to visualize every single verses in the Revelation and connect them altogether? To me, the later part of the document looks really, really incoherent.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 03:40 AM

Revelations seem to me an example (there was a lot of stuff like this written back then) of the ancient world's example of fantasy literature.  As I understand it the author's purpose was a veiled attack on the Roman Empire and has nothing to do with us.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 03:47 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 01 October 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

Revelations seem to me an example (there was a lot of stuff like this written back then) of the ancient world's example of fantasy literature.  As I understand it the author's purpose was a veiled attack on the Roman Empire and has nothing to do with us.

That's the textbook answer and I don't dispute it. What I am really wondering is what kind of chemicals motivate this John of Patmos character. Or did he even visit Patmos at all?


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:59 AM

Revelations makes perfect sense.... assuming you have eaten mushrooms.

I have seen things..... :mellow:

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:30 PM

You fail to realise that it was the Angels who were showing him the visions which are coming to past in our time and are now in rev. 5 or 6 where it says the 4 horsmen released from hell and the souls dressed in white are under the alter waiting for the second coming

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