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#1    GreenmansGod

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:21 PM

At what point do you think any religion (Paganism, Abrahamic, Hindu,etc...) goes to far in its regulation and control of it's members or non members.  Where does one draw the line between religious freedom and religious abuse.  Be nice y'all.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:22 PM

That's a human nature, isn't it?


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:25 PM

I think every religion has rules that its followers have to obey. But I dont really now what rules catholics have or Hindus or Paganism. But I think as long as the rules are in reason I think its fine

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:40 PM

View PostReaperS_ParadoX, on 29 September 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

I think every religion has rules that its followers have to obey. But I dont really now what rules catholics have or Hindus or Paganism. But I think as long as the rules are in reason I think its fine

Sadly, as an ex-Christian/Catholic/Fundamentalist, I don't think that's the case.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:10 PM

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As far as I'm concerned, any religion which promises 'special privileges' for its adherents while promoting prejudice against non-adherents has gone too far.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:30 PM

I think it goes wrong when it's a religion instead of a sincere belief, when you must accommodate the religion and the sincere belief doesn't matter as much to your membership status.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:35 PM

There are Christian (and almost Christian) groups who are noted for their charity, and one is told of the suffering they relieve around the world, but one is not told that the aid only goes to those who join their group.


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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:56 PM

Mikko-kun,

I agree with you.

Matthew 6:2-3  "Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:"


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:01 AM

It is a far site better than organized charities paying executive salaries to the management.

I have to admit I'm of two minds on this.  Maybe without having such massive organizations with such salaries, these huge charities would not be able to function as well as they do.  Still, it just seems so inappropriate for half or more of the money raised to go for "administration."


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:27 AM

When a religion tells you to not live for your self..
but for the organization and their agenda...
that is going way to far man!

it's all about party festival and fun...

I have a connection to nature.. creation the earth...
magical powers etc...
i feel good and happy everyday...

I feel most religions just want you to be a slave to them..
then say you serving God... yet you are making them rich...
and then they try to make you feel bad by saying if you don't slave for them..
you are going against God....
yeah sure...
that's mind control..
and only works on the weak minded...

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:35 AM

View PostOgbin, on 29 September 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

Mikko-kun,

I agree with you.

Matthew 6:2-3  "Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:"

Will you please quit with the preaching.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:01 AM

How on earth was that preaching?  It was a response to Frank Merton's comment about how some religious charities force the recipients to join up or not get help and how that idea is not supported by said religion. Comprehension.

Religions who dictate rather than guide, or exclude rather than discuss generally go too far, imo.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:03 AM

View PostMystic Crusader, on 30 September 2013 - 12:35 AM, said:



Will you please quit with the preaching.

My guess is, that that's your limit. :)


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:07 AM

In my opinion evangelism goes too far. To try and actively convert someone else with a different set of beliefs (or none) is just wrong.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 01:17 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 30 September 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

In my opinion evangelism goes too far. To try and actively convert someone else with a different set of beliefs (or none) is just wrong.
Oh we all do it all the time.

What I don't like are cults coming in and drawing gullible young people into their net and breaking up families and causing no end of pain.  Using logic and reason is one thing, using emotional appeals, propaganda techniques, and indoctrination, is another.





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