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#1    Kowalski

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:46 PM

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Last week, as the prospect of a federal government shutdown loomed as reality, the President of the United States told the media that he would "not negotiate" with "house burners." And with that, the American mainstream media threw away their longstanding belief in "civil bipartisan compromise" in order to stand with Obama.

Since then, the GOP have passed two bills to avert a shutdown, both Senate Democrats and Obama have refused to offer a compromise, and now the media are attempting to make the GOP look like the crazies and the Democrats and Obama look like statesman.


Link: http://www.breitbart...rnment-shutdown


Some really good videos on here to.

I guess we all knew the media was Obama's prostitute..... :(

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:56 PM

Government Shutdown  :sleepy:
My prediction.....last-minute agreement, Can´t they come up with a new red-herring for us to worry about?

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:57 PM

Personally, I don't think the media are backing the Dems more strongly because of any political bias, but because the Reps are fighting the wrong war. Whatever is wrong with ACA initially can be modified over time with amendments to the Bill, while still retaining the umbrella ACA provides to those who could not get insurance under the previous system.

Healthcare and healthcare insurance reform in the US is needed, and fighting to revoke that is the wrong call. The Reps should work with the Dems and in doing so will secure a pathway to bring some of their own reforms into the scheme. As it is, all they are doing is alienating themselves and making their position even weaker.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:01 PM

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The American people voted in 2012 for divided government, giving the presidency and Senate to the Democrats and the House to the Republicans. Republicans in the House are thus not only constitutionally entitled to opposed Democrat spending plans like Obamacare but they actually have both a mandate and a democratic responsibility to do so – a responsibility to represent the will of the people, a majority of whom are against Obamacare.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:08 PM

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Republicans in the House are thus not only constitutionally entitled to opposed Democrat spending plans like Obamacare but they actually have both a mandate and a democratic responsibility to do so...


Complete tosh.

The Republicans certainly have the mandate and responsibility to do that which they believe is right for the United States and if that means opposing the Democrats, so be it.

But they do not have the "mandate and responsibility" to oppose the Democrats simply because they are the 'opposition'.

Another example of the poisonous partisan rhetoric that has divided America.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:10 PM

View PostLeonardo, on 30 September 2013 - 09:57 PM, said:

Personally, I don't think the media are backing the Dems more strongly because of any political bias, but because the Reps are fighting the wrong war. Whatever is wrong with ACA initially can be modified over time with amendments to the Bill, while still retaining the umbrella ACA provides to those who could not get insurance under the previous system.

Healthcare and healthcare insurance reform in the US is needed, and fighting to revoke that is the wrong call. The Reps should work with the Dems and in doing so will secure a pathway to bring some of their own reforms into the scheme. As it is, all they are doing is alienating themselves and making their position even weaker.

I am all for healthcare reform. It is desperately needed in the US. I think we should get rid of the NSA, DHS, and the IRS, (that way we have millions of dollars to do this), and put everyone on socialized medicine, like they have in Sweden, and Norway. I just don't think Obamacare is going to work. The health insurance companies, wrote this bill. It's going to make rich men richer, and not even help the people it is supposed to.


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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:17 PM

Actually, the opposition's job is to say "no" to any and all legislation until the government can convince them of it's worth, they're the line between government and dictation - in an ideal world that is.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:18 PM

View PostBurt Gummer, on 30 September 2013 - 10:10 PM, said:

I just don't think Obamacare is going to work.

I don't know if it will or won't, Burt.

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The health insurance companies, wrote this bill. It's going to make rich men richer, and not even help the people it is supposed to.

Certainly provision was made in the Bill for healthcare and insurance providers to profit from the exchanges created - but is that not compliant with US-style capitalism?

And the Bill in it's original form did contain a provision for socialised insurance from a not-for-profit govt source. That was ripped out (I believe by the Reps) in one of it's readings to allow it passage through.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:23 PM

View PostLeonardo, on 30 September 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

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Complete tosh.

The Republicans certainly have the mandate and responsibility to do that which they believe is right for the United States and if that means opposing the Democrats, so be it.

But they do not have the "mandate and responsibility" to oppose the Democrats simply because they are the 'opposition'.

Another example of the poisonous partisan rhetoric that has divided America.

First of all, I am Constitutional Libertarian. I have voted third party in the past two elections. I don't like Republicans or Democrats.

A lot of the Republicans that got voted in in 2012 got in because they ran on the platform of defending and fighting Obamacare. It's politically smart for them to oppose this law tooth and nail, because that is what they campaigned on. They know if they don't, their out come next election by their constituents. Do they really care about us? I doubt it. They just don't want to get voted out in the next election. It's also lucrative....


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A novice Republican running in a rural state has shattered fundraising records campaigning as the "anti-Obamacare candidate." In his first race for public office, Ben Sasse has raised nearly $750,000 in just eight weeks of the first quarter of his nascent candidacy, according to records being filed with the Federal Election Commission.

The massive haul highlights how lucrative campaigning against Obamacare can be for Republicans. It also underscores how deeply motivated conservative voters are to see that the sprawling healthcare law be killed.


Link: http://www.breitbart...raska-obamacare

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 12:55 AM

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make the GOP look like the crazies

The media doesn't have anything to do with that. The GOP is doing just fine on their own. Posting right wing blogs doesn't help your cause.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 01:15 AM

Well all the media is biased left except for fox which is biased right.

It would be awesome if one of the mainstream news outlets were neutral :innocent:

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 02:43 AM

View Postninjadude, on 01 October 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

The media doesn't have anything to do with that. The GOP is doing just fine on their own. Posting right wing blogs doesn't help your cause.

I saw on CNN today a reporter going over poll results the Question was: who do you feel is responsible for the government shutdown

A. president Obama
B. The republicans in congress
C. both

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I see a category that may have been overlooked?

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 02:43 AM

View Postspartan max2, on 01 October 2013 - 01:15 AM, said:

Well all the media is biased left except for fox which is biased right.

It would be awesome if one of the mainstream news outlets were neutral :innocent:

There are. You just can't find them in the US. Here we have 3 conglomerates of warring Pravdas.


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Posted 01 October 2013 - 02:45 AM

The mainstream media in the US are the PR arm of one the two parties, giving that party a decisive edge.
Frankly, I don´t see how the other party is going to solve that conundrum. They are forever on the losing edge in convincing the low-information voters.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 02:52 AM

View PostMiskatonicGrad, on 01 October 2013 - 02:43 AM, said:

I saw on CNN today a reporter going over poll results the Question was: who do you feel is responsible for the government shutdown

A. president Obama
B. The republicans in congress
C. both

I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I see a category that may have been overlooked?

I was once the sharpest knife in the drawer and I'm not sure. Who'd they leave out? Tea Party? Dems in the Senate? Hitler?





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