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#1    RavenHawk

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 07:13 PM

"burn the house down because you haven't gotten 100% of your way"


How ‘bout just 10% for once?

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 08:14 PM

We don't need no water let the ...@$#^&*@%* burn!


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 02:41 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 01 October 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

"burn the house down because you haven't gotten 100% of your way"
How 'bout just 10% for once?

it's not about fairness. There is a well defined method of passing and repealing law. It has nothing to do with the CR.

I'm simply amazed at the people here on UM who are ostensibly disrespectful of government.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 10:39 AM

View Postninjadude, on 02 October 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:



it's not about fairness. There is a well defined method of passing and repealing law. It has nothing to do with the CR.

I'm simply amazed at the people here on UM who are ostensibly disrespectful of government.

Why does government demand respect?

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:56 AM

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:17 AM

Respect is given when respect is earnt.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:42 AM

View PostRavenHawk, on 01 October 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

"burn the house down because you haven't gotten 100% of your way"

How 'bout just 10% for once?
How 'bout Government funds all abortions?

No? How about we just do it for a year?


Hey - we're the ones willing to compromise here.

How about we go to conference so we can discuss the percentage of abortions you'd be willing to compromise on?. How 'bout 10%?

While we're here - how 'bout we raise the taxes on the top 10% back to what they were in the 1950's?


How 'bout we tax 10% of churches?

How 'bout we ban 10% of guns?

How 'bout just 10% for once?


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:24 AM

Not to mention the obvious but what's wrong with ending QE and giving the banks a trillion dollar a year haircut?    Putting an end to that honey comb is completely spaced over by the entire bipartisan greed machine.   How would letting the banks exist on their own merits kill off the sick women (stage props) standing behind Obama in the Rose Garden?   Are those poor women getting their healthcare from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley?

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 10:28 AM

View Postninjadude, on 03 October 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

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That's helpful.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:28 PM

Did the focus of this op shift – not that that never happens?....

I included the entire sentence from the quote so that author could be identified.  The *burning* part was not really part of the subject.  The point was that I don’t think that the GOP is wanting 100% of what they want, but how ‘bout at least some table scraps from Mr. “I will not negotiate” President?  This President is not interested in compromise.  He sees the GOP as enemies of the state.  That’s pretty good considering that Socialism is the enemy of the Republic.  This President is using the Constitution against itself to destroy it.  That’s why he’s studied it.  He is intent on building a Socialist Empire.  This is painfully clear.  And as I’ve mentioned elsewhere, he has gotten to the point that he doesn’t care about the audacity of the lies he tells.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:34 PM

View Postninjadude, on 02 October 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

it's not about fairness. There is a well defined method of passing and repealing law. It has nothing to do with the CR.
It’s Washington.  Any way they can get the job done is the correct method.

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I'm simply amazed at the people here on UM who are ostensibly disrespectful of government.
The people should never respect the government.  It is not to be respected or trusted.  It is a dangerous tool that needs to be under constant control of the people which the people have been lax in.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:46 PM

About the last thing I want or anyone else should want is "respect."  That sounds like a gang leader.  What others think of you is bound to always be wrapped up in their own posture.  Self-respect is about all we should really want.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:50 PM

Errr.....not to split hairs here, but "socialism" is not the "enemy" of a Republic.  A "Republic" is a form of representation of the people....not how the "society" functions.  Too many people blurring lines here.  I do not think "socialism" can work in a country the size of the USA, but I do not "hate it"...It works very well in some places and I am happy for those that like it.  It is just not a viable option in a country of 330 million...Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark are all doing ok by their people...but they are very small population clusters....

OK...

The Republicans threw their wish list on the table...fully anticipating some of it getting swept off.  The problem I see with the Dems is that they are not even coming to the table.  That is not the foundation of negotiation.

I read over their "wish list"...if they would scrap some of the boot licking of big biz and special interest groups...people might listen to them.

How about....if you are going to subsidize "big oil"...then you subsidize my business too?  I want a "Gov set aside" too....not much, just a half a mill a year in guaranteed contracts....c'mon man...in the scope of the trillions they spend...my little "set aside" is less than peanuts.

I hope you all realize that was sarcasm....

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I know it's asking for a miracle...but how about...fair markets?  Everyone gets a shot and no one gets favortism?


Ok, that was off topic....kind of...

Respect is given when it is earned ND.  The corruption that is present and obvious has caused the erosion of respect for all three branches of federal GOV....They earned the disdain the people have for them.  I remember when I was young, people were much more forgiving and really wanted to believe in the "goodness of GOV"...but that started slipping away and has slid way-way down.  I doubt it will ever come back until the crookedness is called into the light and punished harshly.  That is never going to happen.

People have come to realize their is no "real" altruism in GOV anymore...it has become a platform for the accumulation of personal and family wealth and the multitudes of people have been lost in the smoke.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:05 PM

View PostTiggs, on 03 October 2013 - 02:42 AM, said:

How 'bout Government funds all abortions?

No? How about we just do it for a year?
Why?  I am all for not making abortion illegal.  But I’m not for the government paying for abortions.  That is a matter between the woman and whoever she wishes to share the decision with.  It’s not the place of government to get involved.  It’s the woman’s body.  Just like Obamacare, our bodies belong to us.  Government should not get involved with Healthcare.  That’s not the purpose of government.

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Hey - we're the ones willing to compromise here.
But the President isn’t.

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How about we go to conference so we can discuss the percentage of abortions you'd be willing to compromise on?. How 'bout 10%?
Non sequitur since I am for abortion rights.

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While we're here - how 'bout we raise the taxes on the top 10% back to what they were in the 1950's?
Why?  Why do that?  We are not as prosperous like we were back then.  Plus, if we did that, we still wouldn’t put a dent in the debt and the overhead created would be passed onto the consumer.  That’s ineffectual in one and wasteful in the other.

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How 'bout we tax 10% of churches?

How 'bout we ban 10% of guns?

How 'bout just 10% for once?
And you’re a moderator??  I guess that position doesn’t require intelligence.  No wonder I wouldn’t want to do it.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 03 October 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

But the President isn't.



Why should he?  Why would someone compromise on a done deal?

That's like going to buy a car, agreeing on the deal, then complaining when the bill is due, refusing to pay for anything until your demands are met.

You think the bank should compromise with someone like that?





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