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#1    markdohle

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 04:11 PM






Open ended


Is this all there is, what we see?  If that were true, why do people have experiences that seem to point to an open ended reality; experiences that shatter all preconceived ideas about reality? I would think all of us, no matter our beliefs, need to have the ability to be surprised in order to move deeper into the infinite mystery.   For those who believe that our life ends by hitting some kind of brick wall, well perhaps they will be most surprised of all.


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Posted 02 October 2013 - 05:13 PM

There is definitely more than what we are able to see.  There are, of course, physical limitations to what we can see without outside help.  I find myself a bit disturbed by those 17 species of bacteria that live on our eyelashes.

Who can see our soul?  Our consciousness must be more than just neural impulses.  We exist, and we know that we exist.  Who can see our emotions, our hopes, our fears, our dreams?  Is all that we experience just a connect-the-dots in our brain, or do we partially exist in that metaphysical realm beyond biology?  You can only know it if you have experienced it.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 07:13 PM

Those grasp delusion.

Those sift rational.

Those avoid confusion.

Those hunger know all.

The truth unknown.

The experience so sure.

The fear alone.

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Posted 02 October 2013 - 09:38 PM

Those experiences you speak of, Markdohle, are I believe, glimpses of a much larger reality than we can currently comprehend.  I have had some encounters which prove, to me, that there is existence after this physical body dies.

I cannot prove to anyone, nor would I attempt to try;  for me though, it is enough to show me that the spirit/soul/essence of who we are continues.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:11 AM

Depends on what you see. I see a lot more than many people. Remember one of the last scenes in Field of Dreams, where the brother-in-law sits down on the bench, and says Where did those guys come from? Uh-huh. We think we're seeing everything that is, but just like when we see a huge iceberg, the larger part of it is there, but can't be seen. As John Prine says, "it's a big old goofy world."

Edited by Beany, 03 October 2013 - 02:12 AM.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 02:38 AM

View Postmarkdohle, on 02 October 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:






Open ended


Is this all there is, what we see?  ...For those who believe that our life ends by hitting some kind of brick wall, well perhaps they will be most surprised of all.

Holy cow, do you ever write large.

Anyways, I believe that it all depends where you are in the course of your life.

If you're young, you probably expect great things. The older you get, the more you may expect 'your lot in life', and you get comfortable with that.

Where you may see a "brick wall", I slip on a familiar, comfortable old pair of shoes. Not that I think that you're that young, or I'm that old. It's just personal perspective. That's all that I'm saying.

Personally, I've either stopped caring about or never cared, 'what comes after'. If there is an 'ever after', that'll be a bonus! :)


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:09 AM

The great mystery cannot be contained in a box not one we make nor the box that we think with.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 12:57 PM

Some great comments thanks everyone.  The reason the type was so large is that for some reason yesterday I could not get it smaller, I think my computer was having a bad day.

Ideologies can't be truth since they are so closed in on themselves and the  also pretend to have all the answers.  What keeps religion alive, the non-fundamentalist kind, is that the sayings of the the founders is always pondered, and there is an understanding that the founders teaching need to be looked at over and over again and seen on a deeper level.  when this is not done rigidity enters in.  Tradition should be something living, not something dead and rootless.  I do think that spirituality is given depth by being connected to a tradition, but of course being a devout catholic I would say that , now wouldn't I?


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:26 AM

View PostLikely Guy, on 03 October 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:

If there is an 'ever after', that'll be a bonus! :)
What if the hereafter were something (perpetually) horrific, what would you do then?

Peace.

(Christian) Gnosticism also has the Holy Spirit, Christ(os), Jesus, LOVE...and God.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 09:54 AM

View PostNo-thingBornPassion, on 06 October 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

What if the hereafter were something (perpetually) horrific, what would you do then?

Peace.
Yea -- what if we just become disembodied spirits?


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:02 AM

Being disembodied is inevitable. The spirit will end up in some kind of reality, however.

(Christian) Gnosticism also has the Holy Spirit, Christ(os), Jesus, LOVE...and God.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

View PostNo-thingBornPassion, on 06 October 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

Being disembodied is inevitable. The spirit will end up in some kind of reality, however.
Why?  How about floating around forever blind and deaf and untouched and not able to feel either?  And utterly alone.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:07 AM

That's one reality. If that were the case, would you be able to accept it?

(Christian) Gnosticism also has the Holy Spirit, Christ(os), Jesus, LOVE...and God.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:12 AM

View PostNo-thingBornPassion, on 06 October 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

That's one reality. If that were the case, would you be able to accept it?
No choice, huh?  No I would probably go insane, although with a spirit that may not be possible.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 10:21 AM

I wouldn't know since I've never stayed in that kind of reality long enough find out. Death was freaky enough. On the other hand, the Void was like a way to erase one's "awareness." That's the way I got it. And voila, Jesus Christ came along...

Edited by No-thingBornPassion, 06 October 2013 - 10:22 AM.

(Christian) Gnosticism also has the Holy Spirit, Christ(os), Jesus, LOVE...and God.




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