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#31    joc

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

View Postsupervike, on 08 October 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:

So how do you know the 'Freaking Legislature' didn't just read parts of it, or have the good people at the Heritage Foundation read it for them?

You're taking the word of Pelosi, whom I'm assuming you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw?

People seem to like that their kids can now stay on their insurance until age 26, or that they can still get coverage if they lose their job and have a pre-existing condition.

These are good things.
No, they aren't good things.  Twenty six year olds are adults who should be out in the real world fending for themselves...not setting at home with Mommy and Daddy, eating Mommy and Daddy's food, etc.  NOT a good thing.
And we know the Congress didn't read it because they said they didn't read it.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:54 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 08 October 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

Actually the NHS is almost universally regarded as a Good Idea in the UK. People complain about it a lot, but those complaints are mainly because they feel that the Govt. ought to invest more in it. I suppose one difference is that people don't have to make use of it, but are free to use the private sector if they wish.

NHS = 2 Tier System

One for the rich.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:09 PM

View Postsupervike, on 08 October 2013 - 05:51 PM, said:



So how do you know the 'Freaking Legislature' didn't just read parts of it, or have the good people at the Heritage Foundation read it for them?

You're taking the word of Pelosi, whom I'm assuming you wouldn't trust as far as you could throw?

People seem to like that their kids can now stay on their insurance until age 26, or that they can still get coverage if they lose their job and have a pre-existing condition.

These are good things.

Many of them admitted it at the time. There was one dem who said of course he didn't read it as it would take a team of lawyers no several days to read and understand it, but he voted yay anyhow. I'm sure someone knows who said it and can find a quote. As for Pelosi, yes she's a horrid person and professional liar but saying things like pass it to see what's in it and talking about not reading it aren't rehearsed lines. That's was her true self speaking out. The MSM calls that a gaffe when a republican does it.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:13 PM

View PostF3SS, on 08 October 2013 - 06:09 PM, said:

Many of them admitted it at the time. There was one dem who said of course he didn't read it as it would take a team of lawyers no several days to read and understand it, but he voted yay anyhow. I'm sure someone knows who said it and can find a quote. As for Pelosi, yes she's a horrid person and professional liar but saying things like pass it to see what's in it and talking about not reading it aren't rehearsed lines. That's was her true self speaking out. The MSM calls that a gaffe when a republican does it.

The laws are written is Statutory Language.

Statutory Language is dense and difficult to understand.

Instead of reading legislation, they count money.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:15 PM

View Postsupervike, on 08 October 2013 - 05:48 PM, said:

No.  I don't think that.  I think everyone having access to a Health Care plan is that important.
so tax on life is not a bad thing???

btw, everyone had access to health care plan.

and poor had free medicaid.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:19 PM

View Postaztek, on 08 October 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

so tax on life is not a bad thing???

btw, everyone had access to health care plan.

and poor had free medicaid.
Yep, the poor had medicaid, the well off insurance companies, the rich private bills...only those between poor and well off got left out. That will be solved by the ACA. And my private bills will go down a bit because I don't have to pay for those who can't pay by themselves. Not bad I'd say.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:20 PM

View Postaztek, on 08 October 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

so tax on life is not a bad thing???

btw, everyone had access to health care plan.

and poor had free medicaid.

We have more freedom with the old system.  90% of Americans liked it. :tu:

That's an A- isn't it?


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostCyberKen, on 08 October 2013 - 06:20 PM, said:

We have more freedom with the old system.  90% of Americans liked it. :tu:

That's an A- isn't it?

Not following you there.  What freedom won't you have now?


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:31 PM

View Postsupervike, on 08 October 2013 - 06:29 PM, said:

Not following you there.  What freedom won't you have now?
freedom to opt out

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:32 PM

View Postaztek, on 08 October 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:

so tax on life is not a bad thing???

btw, everyone had access to health care plan.

and poor had free medicaid.

I can't say I'm a huge fan of taxes.  But they are a fact of life in the modern society.  To be honest, I'd much rather see my tax dollars spent on this than fund another war in a country that doesn't give two craps about our views or ways of life.

But there are plenty of folks that slipped through the cracks on Health Care.  That's where the 'affordable' part comes in.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:32 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 08 October 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Yep, the poor had medicaid, the well off insurance companies, the rich private bills...only those between poor and well off got left out. That will be solved by the ACA. And my private bills will go down a bit because I don't have to pay for those who can't pay by themselves. Not bad I'd say.

lmoa. will talk about it later, you have no clue what is going to be like. once you'll get slapped with 5k deductable, i'll see how you'll sing than.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:33 PM

View Postaztek, on 08 October 2013 - 06:31 PM, said:

freedom to opt out

ah...oK.  I understand now.

Thank you.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:33 PM

View Postsupervike, on 08 October 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

But there are plenty of folks that slipped through the cracks on Health Care.  That's where the 'affordable' part comes in.
see my respond to Q's post, same goes for yours.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:35 PM

View Postaztek, on 08 October 2013 - 06:32 PM, said:

lmoa. will talk about it later, you have no clue what is going to be like. once you'll get slapped with 5k deductable, i'll see how you'll sing than.

Well, that's what sucks about insurance.  To keep it affordable, sometimes the deduction has to be lofty.  But, I'd much rather be paying on a 5K bill than one that would financially ruin me.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:37 PM

View Postsupervike, on 08 October 2013 - 06:35 PM, said:

Well, that's what sucks about insurance.  To keep it affordable, sometimes the deduction has to be lofty.  But, I'd much rather be paying on a 5K bill than one that would financially ruin me.
lol, blind faith eventially hurts a lot. will come back to it in a year, or so. than you'll tell me what you'd rather pay. and how affordable it is. assuming you had to use it.

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