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CNN Joins Tea Party: Delay ACA for 1 Year !

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#1    CyberKen

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:04 PM

CNN Wolf Blitzer has changed his tune and evolved.  He faced the truth about the ObamaCare Website.

It's not minor.  The entire webpage is a disaster. Wolf Blitzer says lets follow the GOP/Tea Party

suggestion and Delay ObamaCare for 1 year. :tu:


Start over and make the webpage as stable as the Social Security Webpage.

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CNN made the list but we can all see who has the majority of eyeballs during Primetime.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:30 PM

This is the deal, if no one is getting it.
They want to keep delaying it, so whoever comes in in 2016 just gets rid of it before it started to take root, like strangle weed.
This is the bottom line. So any tactic to do it...
I am loathe to agree. It in by no means means I like the gop.
I hate both sides, as both sides are completely full of ****

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:33 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 09 October 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

This is the deal, if no one is getting it.
They want to keep delaying it, so whoever comes in in 2016 just gets rid of it before it started to take root,  strangle weed.
This is the bottom line. So any tactic to do it...
I am loathe to agree. It in by no means means I like the gop.
I hate both sides, as both sides are completely full of ****

Delay ObamaCare for 1 Year.

The website is a disaster.

It's a reasonable concession for Obama.  Go ahead and throw in a CR to fund the government through December 15, 2013.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:35 PM

It's all for show.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 09:14 PM

if  you are going to be hung for  a crime you did  not  do ,
it matters  little  that  your  found innocent ...  two  hours  after  your  dead .

ACA is  what  is  wrong with  liberal democrats ...
they assume themselves to be smarter  than  every  one else.
it  is  their right and responciblity  to  take care  of the  rest  of us...  but  we pay  the bill for  their  correction .

ACA is  what  is  wrong with the  GOP and the  organized  corprate  political party.
they  play the  rights  and  freedoms  of  the citizen  against  the political power  of  the  socialist for  fame  and profit .
the polictians of  the  gop  have  no more  intrest  in  the  rights  of the citizen  than  the  liberal DNC .

the  tea party and  the  99%ers  have  one common  voice  as  out come.   shut  down  the  money  going to washington .
if  that  means  default  and  shut  down the  goverment ...  so  be it.

frankly speaking ,  there  is  nothing  that  the fedaral goverment  does ...  that  can not  be  taken  over  by  local services ...
if  those  localy  will  simply  do it.

we  can  live  with  out  a federal goverment  for  as  long  as   the  ACA  is  in  the  budget .

may  i suggest .  relax  , do  not  push ...   take  a deep breath , light touch , firm  grip , do not  let go , do  not control .
stand  together  or  hang  alone .  when  they  turn  the  lights  out... kick  the  door in  and  turn  the  lights  back  on .
then  make sure  you  know  who it was  that  ordered  the  lights  turned  off...

we  need  that  person  to be  fired.   any  one  that  is  not elected , needs  to  get  fired  and  in  meny  cases..  they  need  to go to  jail .
we  do  not  want  any  one  to die  ...  because  we  need  to  know  how  far  up  it  goes  ,  who gave the  order  ,  and  who  do  we  strip  of  every thing  they  will  ever  own  , currently  own  ,  and  owned  before  they  played  this  game .

rules  of  pay back .
1)  you make  my  life  hard...  i  make  your  life short .
2)  if  you  were  voted  in to office...  you  take  out  of  office  what  you carried  into office .
3)  you never  get  what  you paid for...   and  if is  free  ...  you pay  double .
4) if  your getting  a pay check ...  the boss  signs  the  check...  the  employee  does  what  the  boss  tells them to do .
    the  boss  wants  to  know  what  the hell  you have been doing with all  that  tax money ...  and  telling  us "  i do  not  know"
    is  not  going to cut  it .
5) if  you  can  create   50 trillion  dollors  with  the  press  of  a button...   lets   un-create  50 trillion  dollors  with  a press  of  a   button .  
6)  we have  in  our prison system  some  very clever  embezzlers ...  i suspect  if  we  aimed  them  at  all  that  off shore  money
if  only  a few  of  them  were  not  complete  morons ,  they  might  even be able  to  get  back  enough  money  to  fund  the  federal  goverment  and  every  other  state , city  and street  light  for  the  next   10  billion  years.
   (  those  that  do  not  steal  our  money  back...  go  back  to  prison ...  value  for  value )
7)  audit  the  federal  reserve ...  and  lets  shine  a light  into  the  dark rooms  where  the deals  are  made .
8)  audit  HUD  ...  (  where  all  the  black  money  comes  from )


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 02:44 PM

View Postonereaderone, on 09 October 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

if  you are going to be hung for  a crime you did  not  do ,
it matters  little  that  your  found innocent ...  two  hours  after  your  dead .

ACA is  what  is  wrong with  liberal democrats ...
they assume themselves to be smarter  than  every  one else.
it  is  their right and responciblity  to  take care  of the  rest  of us...  but  we pay  the bill for  their  correction .

ACA is  what  is  wrong with the  GOP and the  organized  corprate  political party.
they  play the  rights  and  freedoms  of  the citizen  against  the political power  of  the  socialist for  fame  and profit .
the polictians of  the  gop  have  no more  intrest  in  the  rights  of the citizen  than  the  liberal DNC .

the  tea party and  the  99%ers  have  one common  voice  as  out come.   shut  down  the  money  going to washington .
if  that  means  default  and  shut  down the  goverment ...  so  be it.

frankly speaking ,  there  is  nothing  that  the fedaral goverment  does ...  that  can not  be  taken  over  by  local services ...
if  those  localy  will  simply  do it.

we  can  live  with  out  a federal goverment  for  as  long  as   the  ACA  is  in  the  budget .

may  i suggest .  relax  , do  not  push ...   take  a deep breath , light touch , firm  grip , do not  let go , do  not control .
stand  together  or  hang  alone .  when  they  turn  the  lights  out... kick  the  door in  and  turn  the  lights  back  on .
then  make sure  you  know  who it was  that  ordered  the  lights  turned  off...

we  need  that  person  to be  fired.   any  one  that  is  not elected , needs  to  get  fired  and  in  meny  cases..  they  need  to go to  jail .
we  do  not  want  any  one  to die  ...  because  we  need  to  know  how  far  up  it  goes  ,  who gave the  order  ,  and  who  do  we  strip  of  every thing  they  will  ever  own  , currently  own  ,  and  owned  before  they  played  this  game .

rules  of  pay back .
1)  you make  my  life  hard...  i  make  your  life short .
2)  if  you  were  voted  in to office...  you  take  out  of  office  what  you carried  into office .
3)  you never  get  what  you paid for...   and  if is  free  ...  you pay  double .
4) if  your getting  a pay check ...  the boss  signs  the  check...  the  employee  does  what  the  boss  tells them to do .
the  boss  wants  to  know  what  the hell  you have been doing with all  that  tax money ...  and  telling  us "  i do  not  know"
is  not  going to cut  it .
5) if  you  can  create   50 trillion  dollors  with  the  press  of  a button...   lets   un-create  50 trillion  dollors  with  a press  of  a   button .  
6)  we have  in  our prison system  some  very clever  embezzlers ...  i suspect  if  we  aimed  them  at  all  that  off shore  money
if  only  a few  of  them  were  not  complete  morons ,  they  might  even be able  to  get  back  enough  money  to  fund  the  federal  goverment  and  every  other  state , city  and street  light  for  the  next   10  billion  years.
   (  those  that  do  not  steal  our  money  back...  go  back  to  prison ...  value  for  value )
7)  audit  the  federal  reserve ...  and  lets  shine  a light  into  the  dark rooms  where  the deals  are  made .
8)  audit  HUD  ...  (  where  all  the  black  money  comes  from )


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Speaker Boehner: How can we tax the American people on ObamaCare when the website is not working?

Solution: Drop Kick ObamaCare 1 Year with NO TAX at the end of the year!


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:26 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 09 October 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

It's all for show.

Delaying ObamaCare for 1 Year will be a huge victory for Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Mike Lee. :tu:


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 01:41 PM

It comes down to equal application of the law.

We are a Constitutional Republic AND a Nomocracy (which is the rule of law)

Nomocracy:
Rule by a government under the sovereignty of rational laws and civic right as opposed to one under theocratic systems of government. In a nomocracy, ultimate and final authority (sovereignty) exists in the law.



If they can give corporations a pass/delay, then the rule of law demands that everyone receive the same options.  That is what the rule of law is all about, the great equalizer.  It is what allows a voice for the many, the few and even the one.  Not admitting the system is not ready for implementation and still demanding everyone participate is...to me...a solid form of arrogance by someone...refusing to admit they are mistaken.

If people want to log in, that is fine.  If they choose give the gov (IRS, NSA, and all the others) all their sensitive information and have that connected to your IP address....fine, go for it.  Best of luck with that.

It should be an option, not a requirement for at least a year.

Want to know why I think they are not doing it even though it is the right and legal thing to do?  Because that will be one year closer to the elections.  I think they know they are going to lose seats...

I suggest they amend this thing...if they don't, then it might just get repealed in 2014 or 2016.  If they work together and amend it to make it functional and feasible...perhaps it will survive.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:02 PM

Jeremiah,

The fix is in. The 1 Year Delay on ObamaCare is a done deal. (Jon Stewart rolled right over Sebelius)

The short term CR is also a done deal.

The shutdown has become an albatross around Obamas neck. (Military Death Benefit Scandal)

We also have China and Japan pushing Obama to the table. They demand concrete measures to be taken.

They are just bickering over specific cuts brought forth Paul Ryan.

Expect an 11th hour Compromise just like the Sequester.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:14 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 11 October 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

If they can give corporations a pass/delay, then the rule of law demands that everyone receive the same options.

While I agree with you that law should be applied equally and fairly, is this the beef the Republicans in Congress have with the ACA which caused them to seek to have it delayed or defunded? Because that is not the impression I have got from what the media is reporting.

Additionally, that the various websites allowing access to the ACA/Exchanges are not yet stable is no basis for suggesting the whole Act should be delayed. You don't get rid of your car because the tyres are worn.

Edited by Leonardo, 11 October 2013 - 02:15 PM.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:23 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 11 October 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

If they can give corporations a pass/delay, then the rule of law demands that everyone receive the same options.
If the fourteenth amendment can be applied to corporations, then I demand to be registered in the Cayman Isles, for tax purposes.




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Posted 11 October 2013 - 02:28 PM

View PostLeonardo, on 11 October 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

While I agree with you that law should be applied equally and fairly, is this the beef the Republicans in Congress have with the ACA which caused them to seek to have it delayed or defunded? Because that is not the impression I have got from what the media is reporting.

Additionally, that the various websites allowing access to the ACA/Exchanges are not yet stable is no basis for suggesting the whole Act should be delayed. You don't get rid of your car because the tyres are worn.

The American people will be outraged if they get fined/taxed for not buying a product on an ObamaCare webpage that is - Out of Order-.


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Posted 11 October 2013 - 03:31 PM

We all know the Republicans have their reasons for wanting a delay...it may or may not be based on the fair and equal application of law.  To a point, that is actually irrelevant  The reason or rational of equal rights and equal laws is good enough.

What is good for some must be good for all...

Is there alternative reasons?  I'm sure there is...but they have a glaring and logical reason...go with it.

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 11 October 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

We all know the Republicans have their reasons for wanting a delay...it may or may not be based on the fair and equal application of law.  To a point, that is actually irrelevant  The reason or rational of equal rights and equal laws is good enough.

What is good for some must be good for all...

Is there alternative reasons?  I'm sure there is...but they have a glaring and logical reason...go with it.

Peggy Noonan WSJ : Delay ObamaCare for 1 Year

Peggy was not impressed with the performance of HSS Kathleen Sebelius on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

She said Sebelius sounded like a blithering idiot as she failed to justify why individuals cannot be granted a 1 year delay,

just as businesses have been.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 05:04 PM

I saw the Daily show interview...yeah, she had no logical reason to give businesses an option and not the people.

It seemed kinda obvious to me that they have no legitimate reason for shoving this down the throats of the citizens and not the corporations...aside from some glad handing and back room agreements.

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