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Is it time for Obama to give back his Nobel?


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:33 PM

The Telegraph said:


Tomorrow we hear who has won this year's Nobel Peace Prize. Of course, most of the previous recipients have been deserving. Some less so. When Henry Kissinger was awarded it in 1973, Tom Lehrer quipped that the prize, "made political satire obsolete."

The same could be said about the award that went to Barack Obama in 2009. It summed up his whole political career – celebrated before he'd actually done anything, the jar into which millions of liberals poured their dreams, and, most importantly, an utter disappointment when in office. Barack Obama deserves a peace prize in the way that Pat Robertson deserves the trophy for Mr Gay USA 2013. Consider the evidence:

- Far from ending the adventurism of his predecessor, Barack Obama surged troop numbers in Afghanistan, bombed Libya and was only prevented from going into Syria by public opposition to the sheer insanity of the idea.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:34 PM

Well he won it for no other reason than not being Bush so it's not like he earned it or anything. I think giving it back would be a good move.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:36 PM

He shouldn't have it in the first place.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:37 PM

Oh no, not at all. He didn't manage to persuade Congress to allow him a War in Syria, so surely that should qualify him for another Peace Prize.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:42 PM

View PostColonel Rhuairidh, on 10 October 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Oh no, not at all. He didn't manage to persuade Congress to allow him a War in Syria, so surely that should qualify him for another Peace Prize.

Didn't Congress b**** at him for not bombing Syria? Saying it make the US look weak? :P

Clearly the GOP should get the Peace Prize for shutting down the US government and stopping them from doing anything remotely warlike. ;)

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 04:44 PM

I never understood why he got it in the first place...sure I had my sarcastic thinking...but seriously...he had just been elected...he hadn't done anything but be the first black president...I didn't know you could get a peace prize for what people "thought" you might do in the future.  hell, give me one...I "might" cure a disease or figure out faster than light travel...should be just as much justification as what they had for giving him one.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:08 PM

This topic is posted 4 years too late.  Then again as I recall it probably was posted then as well.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 06:25 PM

Maybe he got it because he was a black man elected as president in a country with a history of racial segregation. Up until about 40 or so years ago of course. I'd count that as being a good thing.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 06:47 PM

View Postandy4, on 10 October 2013 - 06:25 PM, said:

Maybe he got it because he was a black man elected as president in a country with a history of racial segregation. Up until about 40 or so years ago of course. I'd count that as being a good thing.

America should have gotten it, not Obama. Obama didn't do anything! This was America's achievement, not his....


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 07:19 PM

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To be fair, he has done a lot for racial equality, proving that a black politician can be just as useless as a white one.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 07:24 PM

When you list all the countries the US hasn't threatened, bombed, invaded, taken military action or instigated revolution in, against those it has during his time in office, you can see why he deserves that Peace Prize. :mellow:

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

no you can't.
according to your logic Putin deserves one every year,

and he pbly does deserve one a lot more than obama

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 07:57 PM

THis year I'd say he really does deserve one...putin i mean

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 08:44 PM

View PostBurt Gummer, on 10 October 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:



America should have gotten it, not Obama. Obama didn't do anything! This was America's achievement, not his....

Ok, but without him getting elected your point is null.

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Posted 10 October 2013 - 09:47 PM

View Postandy4, on 10 October 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

Ok, but without him getting elected your point is null.

And so is this entire conversation for that matter. He deserved the historical recognition and that is it. It is the voters who made the great strides. All he did was try and he certainly isn't the first black guy to try. If anything he deserved the honorary lawyers award of Duey, Cheatem & Howe for the mass scale duping he pulled.





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