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Gallup: 60% Say 3rd Major Party Is Needed

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#31    travelnjones

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Posted 11 October 2013 - 11:52 PM

The problem with the Libertarian party is they don't want to screw us over.  Since when has that ever worked in Washington?


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 12:01 AM

View Posttravelnjones, on 11 October 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

The problem with the Libertarian party is they don't want to screw us over.  Since when has that ever worked in Washington?

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 03:04 AM

I think the problem is that noone knows there IS a third party option.
All people hear about are Republicans and Democrats (or Republicrats and Democricans). They don't hear about the Libertarians - unless it's to ridicule them and imply they're part of the "opposition" (so in the Republicans are in power, the Libertarians are Democrats and versa visa).


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 04:41 AM

If a third party does arise, let's all hope that they aren't very fond of "donations."

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:28 AM

The problem with third parties is that they bring change - sometimes radical, fundamental change.

Just look at the rise of the Nazi Party as a historical example.

If we're fed up with the present situation we might give power to the wrong people.

The problem with politics is every person you can potentially vote-in is a damn wolf in sheep clothing.

They're all filthy animals just clawing at the back door.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:38 AM

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The Arab Spring will come to the U.S., and when it does, there won't be a party of two.

Three will make four, and one will make two, so that the breeze blows U.S. by four ways and in two parts,
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Posted 12 October 2013 - 05:54 AM

The whole 2 party sytem is ridicuoluos.

Democrats-----------------------------------------------------------Republicans

For gay marriage---------------------------------------------------Against gay marriage
Against guns---------------------------------------------------------For guns
For illegal immigrant rights---------------------------------------Shoot illegal immigrants
For minorities-------------------------------------------------------For minorities ( at election time)
Against war----------------------------------------------------------Start wars - That was Bush right?
etc------etc-----------------------------------------------------------etc

No one party speaks for anything I stand for.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 08:59 AM

View Posttravelnjones, on 11 October 2013 - 11:52 PM, said:

The problem with the Libertarian party is they don't want to screw us over.  Since when has that ever worked in Washington?

I would caveat that with a "yet".

You cannot say anything about what they would do when in power until they get into power.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:04 AM

You don't want more parties; that just makes for more politics.  What you want is no parties.  Get rid of party primaries and have wide open primaries.  Get rid of party machines with strict enforcement and straight party ballots.  Get rid of giving money to parties.


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 09:49 AM

View Postandy4, on 12 October 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

If a third party does arise, let's all hope that they aren't very fond of "donations."

Unless the electoral system is majorly overhauled a third party has no chance without donations. As long as it does not happen on TV in the US it has not happened. And it costs a lot of many to be frequently enough on TV to happen.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:33 AM

View Postspartan max2, on 11 October 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

if 60 percent supposedly wants this then maybe they should vote for a third party...

The libertarian and the green party are the biggest ones

That wont matter. Look at what they did to Ron Paul in the primaries. The game is rigged. The 2 parties will never let go of their power grip. Even if they have to remove the votes of entire counties.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:37 AM

View PostHatake Kakashi, on 12 October 2013 - 05:28 AM, said:

The problem with third parties is that they bring change - sometimes radical, fundamental change.

Just look at the rise of the Nazi Party as a historical example.

If we're fed up with the present situation we might give power to the wrong people.

The problem with politics is every person you can potentially vote-in is a damn wolf in sheep clothing.

They're all filthy animals just clawing at the back door.

We are more nazi like under these 2 parties then we have ever been before. Change is what we need, big time.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:20 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 12 October 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

I think the problem is that no one knows there IS a third party option.
All people hear about are Republicans and Democrats (or Republicrats and Democricans). They don't hear about the Libertarians - unless it's to ridicule them and imply they're part of the "opposition" (so in the Republicans are in power, the Libertarians are Democrats and versa visa).

Everybody knows that something odd is going on in Washington D.C.

GOP + Dems = Go along to get along

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:23 PM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 11 October 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

The Tea Party!!!! Really!!!! They are the problem! If anything throw the libertarians in with the dem and Gop. That would actually make a difference.

Yes, really!  The Tea Party has regained momentum thanks to Senator Ted Cruz !


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 01:39 PM

View PostAus Der Box Skeptisch, on 11 October 2013 - 08:38 PM, said:

Constitutionalists would be just fine with me also I suppose. Heck I identify myself as a moderate liberal leaning Constitutionalists anyways for lack of a better definition.

I have an old friend who is very much Libertarian.  He thinks a better name for the party should be the Constitution Party.






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