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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:00 PM

The new type of botulinum toxin is so deadly that its details have been withheld from public databases.

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The protein botulinum is produced by the soil bacterium Clostridium botulinum and is able to block the release of a chemical that makes muscles work. The newly discovered toxin is so devastatingly effective that it takes as little as two billionths of a gram to kill an adult human.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:25 PM

Looks like now they have to make an anti toxin.  I'm sure once they have that, it will become public.  Good for them though, on with holding the DNA sequence and being responsible.

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 12:33 PM

Provided one can live long enough to have it administered.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

i hope they have the anti toxin very soon...


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:09 PM

I'm all for keeping this type of information locked away tight..m.we have enuf problems with the fanaticals and bombs, and keeping nukes out of their possesion. I don't see any good reason to release the information, cause it would be like showing a monkey how to use a gun.....


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:11 PM

i hope they have the anti toxin very soon...


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 04:29 PM

sure its good to have this information stored, but whats the point in making it in the first place?

what do they say? "hey Dr. Whatever, lets make the deadliest substance known to man, then see what happens."

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Posted 16 October 2013 - 05:01 PM

I agree....let sleeping dogs lay...why find out in the first place...


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 06:14 PM

View PostSpiritus Spacium, on 16 October 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

sure its good to have this information stored, but whats the point in making it in the first place?

what do they say? "hey Dr. Whatever, lets make the deadliest substance known to man, then see what happens."

"ok"

That's not what happened. It was not "engineered"
It was found in the feces of a sick child, studied, and found to be a previously unknown variant.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:16 PM

Ooooooh......

Hectic...

the last living organisms on this planet will be bacteria.....


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:33 PM

I remember the Bon Vivant company that made vichyssoise soup which had been contaminated with the botulism toxin in 1971. At least one died, more were made ill and there was a panic and a recall of the soup. Five can were found to be contaminated after the recall. The company also went bankrupt thereafter.

According to Wiki the bacteria produces the toxin when it is infected by a bacteria phage virus, which encodes it for the toxic protein. If this strain was found in the gut of a child, it sounds like a case of infant botulism, which is according to the article, the most common form of botulism in the U.S. It is possible that a new phage virus with slightly different encoding produced this particularly lethal form. Interestingly honey is the only know dietary reservoir of the bacteria's spores, and the article states honey should not be fed to infants under one year of age.

The spores of the bacteria are everywhere, in soil, water, the ocean, and probably on some of salad you eat every day, but the bacteria only grows and produces toxins under certain conditions. I remember hearing somewhere an eight ounce glass of the toxin could kill a billion humans, but that may be highly inaccurate.


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:48 PM

0.0 we're all dead
hmm maybe there is a plant or herb as an anti-toxin


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:54 PM

How new? It seems the news of it is new, but the scientists have known about it for some time, wonder if they will disclose that info?
Is it really new or something found in the soils which was deposited there by man over time?
Its obvious it has not been recently discovered, so as the worlds most deadliest toxin, can we have the figures of the number of deaths so far?


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Posted 16 October 2013 - 08:56 PM

If this is something produced by man, I wonder how long it will be before this will be the next chemicle weapon.....if it has not already been patented by the military.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 04:34 AM

View Postfreetoroam, on 16 October 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

If this is something produced by man, I wonder how long it will be before this will be the next chemicle weapon.....if it has not already been patented by the military.

Currently, this is not a "man-made" issue. Rather, it's a previously unknown highly toxic, and apparently rare, variant of a known deadly bacterium produced in nature.

Edited by pallidin, 17 October 2013 - 04:39 AM.





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