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#1    markdohle

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:08 PM

I was talking to a friend and he asked me how he should pray.  I kind of hate those kinds of questions. So I asked him how he prayed.  So he told me what he read, and the time he spent in ‘attempting’ to pray (his description).  So I responded; intention is everything, your doing fine, just allow grace to slowly do its work.  Show up, pray, that is all you need to do.  There are no secrets, though there are many distraction, bodily aches and pains, being tired and yes problems and chaos.  Just part of life, we all go through it.  Time spent in prayer, no matter how poorly it seems to be done, is worthwhile.  We show love by the time we want to spend with the beloved, that is true in any relationship that has deep roots.

Edited by markdohle, 17 October 2013 - 09:15 PM.


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:23 PM

Prayer - as I tell my students in RE lessons - is you talking to God and God talking to you.
God will talk to you in his own way, so you have to talk to Him in yours. Some kneel and/or pray the Rosary, some just look up at the sky, or at the dirt. Some Say the OUr Father, some do so in Latin.

But however you do it, it's between you can God so you have to do it in a way that's meaningful to you.

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:38 PM

I think Christ gave you all some clear instructions on that.

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5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one.[b]
http://www.biblegate...w 6&version=NIV



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Posted 17 October 2013 - 09:40 PM

I find this interesting.
If religion is based on your love for your god, then really would you need to be shown how to pray to that god by man?
It does seem as if this is the case, as different religions have different methods while praying IE: rosary beads, mats, clasping of hands etc etc etc. but these different methods are not passed down from god, but passed down through families or shown to them by the cult they have chosen to follow.
My point is: if you believe in god and you talk to him and he talks to you, surely your GOD is the one who will guide you how to pray, or you should have your own individual method instead of following others.

In an ideal World a law would be passed were NO guns were allowed and all those out there destroyed, trouble is the law makers are not going to take a risk of trying to pass that without making sure they are armed first.

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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:14 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 17 October 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

I find this interesting.
If religion is based on your love for your god, then really would you need to be shown how to pray to that god by man?
It does seem as if this is the case, as different religions have different methods while praying IE: rosary beads, mats, clasping of hands etc etc etc. but these different methods are not passed down from god, but passed down through families or shown to them by the cult they have chosen to follow.
My point is: if you believe in god and you talk to him and he talks to you, surely your GOD is the one who will guide you how to pray, or you should have your own individual method instead of following others.

No two people pray alike, we do what we can, and move forward down our spiritual path.  Each person in unique in how they relate to the infinite, it is sacred.  As a Christian it is Christ Jesus who is central to my love, this seeking to grow in love of God, self and others, is a life long process.  Love last, faith and hope will one day pass.

Prayer opens the heart to the reality of the above.

peace
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View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 17 October 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Prayer - as I tell my students in RE lessons - is you talking to God and God talking to you.
God will talk to you in his own way, so you have to talk to Him in yours. Some kneel and/or pray the Rosary, some just look up at the sky, or at the dirt. Some Say the OUr Father, some do so in Latin.

But however you do it, it's between you can God so you have to do it in a way that's meaningful to you.

Thank you.
peace
Mark


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Posted 17 October 2013 - 11:32 PM

View Postmarkdohle, on 17 October 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

No two people pray alike, we do what we can, and move forward down our spiritual path.  Each person in unique in how they relate to the infinite, it is sacred.


Sorry Mark, as a non religious person, I only say what I see, and I say I see people do pray the same according to their religion. What they say to their god may differ, but at the end of the day, i would imaging many ask the same questions and it is true that they recite the same  "prayer".from their chosen book.

Here are a few examples of people praying and I do not see many people not praying alike within their chosen religion.

*Snip*

Edited by Still Waters, 18 October 2013 - 01:14 PM.
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 01:42 AM

I think surrender is the best way to pray. But that's just me.

"I wish neither to possess, Nor to be possessed. I no longer covet paradise, more important, I no longer fear hell. The medicine for my suffering I had within me from the very beginning, but I did not take it. My ailment came from within myself, But I did not observe it until this moment. Now I see that I will never find the light.  Unless, like the candle, I am my own fuel, Consuming myself. "
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Posted 18 October 2013 - 12:11 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 17 October 2013 - 11:32 PM, said:

Sorry Mark, as a non religious person, I only say what I see, and I say I see people do pray the same according to their religion. What they say to their god may differ, but at the end of the day, i would imaging many ask the same questions and it is true that they recite the same  "prayer".from their chosen book.

Here are a few examples of people praying and I do not see many people not praying alike within their chosen religion.

*Snip*


Each person has a deep interior, each unique, each has a different background, different level of understanding, different intelligence,  different levels of their love of God and others,no, each is unique. though thank you for responding ;-).

Peace
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View PostWhite Crane Feather, on 18 October 2013 - 01:42 AM, said:

I think surrender is the best way to pray. But that's just me.


Thank you.

peace
Mark

Edited by Still Waters, 18 October 2013 - 01:16 PM.
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 12:25 AM

View Postfreetoroam, on 17 October 2013 - 09:40 PM, said:

I find this interesting.
If religion is based on your love for your god, then really would you need to be shown how to pray to that god by man?
It does seem as if this is the case, as different religions have different methods while praying IE: rosary beads, mats, clasping of hands etc etc etc. but these different methods are not passed down from god, but passed down through families or shown to them by the cult they have chosen to follow.
My point is: if you believe in god and you talk to him and he talks to you, surely your GOD is the one who will guide you how to pray, or you should have your own individual method instead of following others.
For me this is true. I don't pray to god just talk with him. But it requires a clear mind, discipline and practice. Many cultures use rituals or artefacts to aid in concentration and practice They do help people but they are not required or essential.

Only an open mind, an open hear,t and a desire to know god are needed.

You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be, and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.

With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world..

Be cheerful.

Strive to be happy.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 02:20 AM

These days my prayers consist solely of thanks. I'm not even sure to who or what the prayer goes. I am responsible, try to stay conscious & aware, increase the knowledge of myself, and let the rest of it go. It's so simple that some people have trouble grokking it.

Edited by Beany, 19 October 2013 - 02:21 AM.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 12:10 PM

View PostBeany, on 19 October 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:

These days my prayers consist solely of thanks. I'm not even sure to who or what the prayer goes. I am responsible, try to stay conscious & aware, increase the knowledge of myself, and let the rest of it go. It's so simple that some people have trouble grokking it.

Well said my friend. Thanks is something often overlooked.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:23 PM

View Postmarkdohle, on 20 October 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

Well said my friend. Thanks is something often overlooked.

peace
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Thanks for all the gifts I've already received, and thanks for those coming my way. And sometimes, just "I need some help here". It's my experience that the universe is endlessly creative, and while I may see one or two solutions to a problem, there are maybe hundreds or thousands that I would never think of. I had a friend who was destitute, husband had cancer, we all prayed for her. Then a super typhoon hit, and a giant crane on top of a building being constructed next door was blown off the roof and destroyed one wall of her apartment on the way down. This did NOT sound like the answers to our prayers. Then she got a call from the construction company, which, being afraid of a law suit, offered to put them up in a brand new apartment rent free, twice as large as theirs, all utilities & cable TV included, for 18 months, along with a lump sum settlement. We would never have come up with this as a solution.


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Posted 20 October 2013 - 08:52 PM

No one needs to pray. God is pretty cool and is watching all along anyway. If you feel he is not, just ask him what you need to know. What is much harder is listening and understanding his response. He's not like us. Also he doesn't care that much about us cos he knows we all end up in the same place after life and as we are on this Earth we are pretty limited.

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 09:49 PM

*snip*  ?

oww, that hurt!

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Posted 20 October 2013 - 11:28 PM

View Postfreetoroam, on 20 October 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

*snip*  ?

oww, that hurt!

LOL, Just apply ice to the wound ;-)

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