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#1    joc

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:20 AM

Thousands Of Consumers Get Insurance Cancellation Notices Due To Health Law Changes
Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies.
The main reason insurers offer is that the policies fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires starting Jan. 1. Most are ending policies sold after the law passed in March 2010.  At least a few are cancelling plans sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions.

Sigh  What part of this did we 'Tea Partiers' say was going to happen...every part!

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 03:35 AM

Sure, you may have said it happened but from what I read, none of it seems negative. The article even stated they would be automatically enrolled in a new plan anyways. If costs are what worry them, why not just enroll in a plan that costs less? I'm sure a simple health care plan from the government wouldn't be any more costly than what they had.

These stories may be happening to people, but it seems like some who are completely against the ACA, just cherry pick from these stories and are against it just out of a "I told you so" attitude. Sure it happened, but where are all the dead people piling up?

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:46 AM

View Postandy4, on 23 October 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

Sure, you may have said it happened but from what I read, none of it seems negative. The article even stated they would be automatically enrolled in a new plan anyways. If costs are what worry them, why not just enroll in a plan that costs less? I'm sure a simple health care plan from the government wouldn't be any more costly than what they had.

These stories may be happening to people, but it seems like some who are completely against the ACA, just cherry pick from these stories and are against it just out of a "I told you so" attitude. Sure it happened, but where are all the dead people piling up?

View Postandy4, on 23 October 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

Sure, you may have said it happened but from what I read, none of it seems negative. The article even stated they would be automatically enrolled in a new plan anyways. If costs are what worry them, why not just enroll in a plan that costs less? I'm sure a simple health care plan from the government wouldn't be any more costly than what they had.

These stories may be happening to people, but it seems like some who are completely against the ACA, just cherry pick from these stories and are against it just out of a "I told you so" attitude. Sure it happened, but where are all the dead people piling up?
Did you even read the article?  300,000 in Florida...160,000 in California...Dude!  The Health Care providers are cancelling their Insurance.
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:59 AM

Yes they are and your point is...?

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:07 AM

His point is that Obamacare was a lie from the the start.  Many people supported this expecting they could keep their insurance, as they were told over and over they would be allowed to do.  They essentially got trolled.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:15 AM

View PostWickian, on 23 October 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

His point is that Obamacare was a lie from the the start.  Many people supported this expecting they could keep their insurance, as they were told over and over they would be allowed to do.  They essentially got trolled.
And as an added bonus America becomes an economy of part time workers.  What's not to love?

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 07:04 AM

I'm guessing the Obama crowd won't care about these disastrous results because they support their President?

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 12:05 PM

You think Obamacare is garbage...well these plans were cancelled because they were worse than Obamacare.  These are the so called "catastrophic" health care plans that insurance companies love.  They provide a HUGE profit to the insurance companies because less than 2% of the people that pay for it use it.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:20 PM

yea, i guess 300k should be happy their policy was canceled. they had insurance, may not be best, but they had it, now they don't. now they have to pay more. obamacare=scam

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:43 PM

View PostAgent0range, on 23 October 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

They provide a HUGE profit to the insurance companies because less than 2% of the people that pay for it use it.
and now they'll make even more profit,. since same ppl will have to buy more expencive policy, that they will use as often as the old one.

Edited by aztek, 23 October 2013 - 01:43 PM.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:45 PM

View PostAgent0range, on 23 October 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

You think Obamacare is garbage...

yes i do, show me 1 peice of evidence, REAL evidence, it is not.

Edited by aztek, 23 October 2013 - 01:50 PM.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 01:52 PM

View PostWickian, on 23 October 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

His point is that Obamacare was a lie from the the start.  Many people supported this expecting they could keep their insurance, as they were told over and over they would be allowed to do.  They essentially got trolled.

If Obamas lips are moving, he is lying.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:07 PM

Yes, most people are losing their insurance, because their policies don't comply with ACA standards....because a 50 year old menopausal woman, has to pay for maternity care, or a single man, has to pay for children's dental....you don't need it, but are required to have it, and pay for it.... :no:


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:11 PM

View PostAgent0range, on 23 October 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

You think Obamacare is garbage...well these plans were cancelled because they were worse than Obamacare.  These are the so called "catastrophic" health care plans that insurance companies love.  They provide a HUGE profit to the insurance companies because less than 2% of the people that pay for it use it.
ďWorse than ObamacareĒ?  Maybe, maybe not.  But at least it was the coverage they wanted.  They didnít get to keep it.  My company transitioned to be compatible with Obamacare last year.  We have a slightly smaller premium, no copay but it is well made up in deductible.  We went from $400 apiece to $4000 for the both.  We usually only spend about $2000 a year for healthcare.  So basically, all we have now *IS* catastrophic.  Someone is making a huge profit off of us.

Iím in my fifties and so Iíve recently had ďroutineĒ exams done.  They said that these would be covered as preventative.  They were not.  Now I have about 7 different bills.  Any one bill is not a killer but with all of them together is an annoyance as I canít take care of them all up front and we get harassed by people looking for their money.  Cash flow is tight and I can only do $25 to $50 a month on each.  After all is said and done, this still doesnít meet the deductible but it takes money away from putting back into the house (i.e. we need new garage doors Ė we have to put that off another year).  But next year will be the same.  There will be some other routine medical expenses.

What good is paying the premium if we canít use it?  We are both pretty healthy.  We take an active role in taking care of ourselves with diet and exercise.  Iím very competitive in baseball and volleyball.  In fact my travelling ďseniorĒ volleyball team played in the Senior Olympics in Cleveland earlier this year and we won the Silver Medal.  Iíve had my bone density tested just last week and it was at 1.3.  Something like .8 is where most 20 somethings are at.  But still because of my age, I need to be more watchful of my health.  I canít afford to ignore it like most 20 somethings can but Iím getting dinged because Iím healthy for my age and probably better than most of those 20 somethings.  Obamacare is not working out very well for me.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 02:26 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 23 October 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

"Worse than Obamacare"?  Maybe, maybe not.  But at least it was the coverage they wanted.  They didn't get to keep it.  My company transitioned to be compatible with Obamacare last year.  We have a slightly smaller premium, no copay but it is well made up in deductible.  We went from $400 apiece to $4000 for the both.  We usually only spend about $2000 a year for healthcare.  So basically, all we have now *IS* catastrophic.  Someone is making a huge profit off of us.

I'm in my fifties and so I've recently had "routine" exams done.  They said that these would be covered as preventative.  They were not.  Now I have about 7 different bills.  Any one bill is not a killer but with all of them together is an annoyance as I can't take care of them all up front and we get harassed by people looking for their money.  Cash flow is tight and I can only do $25 to $50 a month on each.  After all is said and done, this still doesn't meet the deductible but it takes money away from putting back into the house (i.e. we need new garage doors – we have to put that off another year).  But next year will be the same.  There will be some other routine medical expenses.

What good is paying the premium if we can't use it?  We are both pretty healthy.  We take an active role in taking care of ourselves with diet and exercise.  I'm very competitive in baseball and volleyball.  In fact my travelling "senior" volleyball team played in the Senior Olympics in Cleveland earlier this year and we won the Silver Medal.  I've had my bone density tested just last week and it was at 1.3.  Something like .8 is where most 20 somethings are at.  But still because of my age, I need to be more watchful of my health.  I can't afford to ignore it like most 20 somethings can but I'm getting dinged because I'm healthy for my age and probably better than most of those 20 somethings.  Obamacare is not working out very well for me.

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