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The "Guardian" Footage


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#1    CMan0928

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:39 PM

August 18, 1991, West Carleton, Ontario. Still the best and most compelling UFO footage I'm aware of. I actually get goosebumps watching the video because I truly believe it to be legit. Typically I'm a skeptic on this sort of subject. What's the consensus on this video here? Real or faked?






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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:50 PM

View PostCMan0928, on 27 October 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

August 18, 1991, West Carleton, Ontario. Still the best and most compelling UFO footage I'm aware of. I actually get goosebumps watching the video because I truly believe it to be legit. Typically I'm a skeptic on this sort of subject. What's the consensus on this video here? Real or faked?


It is not a question of real or fake.  I see fuzzy lights.  What conclusions can anyone draw from the video?

Edited by sinewave, 27 October 2013 - 09:51 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:53 PM

View Postsinewave, on 27 October 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:



It is not a question of real or fake.  I see fuzzy lights.  What conclusions can anyone draw from the video?

Look closer. I see more than just fuzzy lights. I see a disc. The video I linked to is rather dark. Other copies online may be better. I just linked to the first one I found on YouTube.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:08 PM

It was a truck I believe and the story was hoaxed

http://www.abovetops...hread263567/pg1

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:17 PM

View Postseeder, on 27 October 2013 - 10:08 PM, said:

It was a truck I believe and the story was hoaxed

http://www.abovetops...hread263567/pg1

Thanks for the link. With all due respect I don't believe the truck theory.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:22 PM

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Thanks for the link. With all due respect I don't believe the truck theory.

well thats up to you, its a version of events and there are many.. But I dont believe the landed ufo theory. :lol:

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:28 PM

View Postseeder, on 27 October 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:



well thats up to you, its a version of events and there are many.. But I dont believe the landed ufo theory. :lol:

Fair enough. Does it look like a truck to you? In all honesty?


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

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Fair enough. Does it look like a truck to you? In all honesty?

Heres a page from someone who closely investigated the case, and concluded...no ufo! Its all text so I hope youre a patient reader

http://www.virtually...chive/carp.html

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM

View PostCMan0928, on 27 October 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

Fair enough. Does it look like a truck to you? In all honesty?

To be honest it does not look like anything in particular to me - just lights.  If there is a disc shape there, what does it mean?


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 10:56 PM

View Postsinewave, on 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:



To be honest it does not look like anything in particular to me - just lights.  If there is a disc shape there, what does it mean?

I have no idea what it means. But I see the outline of what appears to be a disc. To each their own.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

View Postseeder, on 27 October 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:



Heres a page from someone who closely investigated the case, and concluded...no ufo! Its all text so I hope youre a patient reader

http://www.virtually...chive/carp.html

I'm halfway through the literature there. Good stuff. I'll finish later when I have more time. Just because Oechsler was trying to "make a buck" doesn't mean the video isn't real. If just means he's trying to capitalize on what he believes is an opportunity to cash in. That may not help his cause in the eyes of a lot of people, but it doesn't disprove anything, either.

Edited by CMan0928, 27 October 2013 - 11:01 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:18 PM

View PostCMan0928, on 27 October 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

I'm halfway through the literature there. Good stuff. I'll finish later when I have more time. Just because Oechsler was trying to "make a buck" doesn't mean the video isn't real. If just means he's trying to capitalize on what he believes is an opportunity to cash in. That may not help his cause in the eyes of a lot of people, but it doesn't disprove anything, either.

Interesting take.  You are willing to accept he might be dishonest but he was not lying about the ET thing.

Edited by sinewave, 27 October 2013 - 11:20 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

View Postsinewave, on 27 October 2013 - 11:18 PM, said:



Interesting take.  You are willing to accept he might be dishonest but he was not lying about the ET thing.

Where did I say or imply he might be dishonest? I simply said he might have his own motives for getting involved. Again, doesn't disprove anything. Kind of like when someone gets in a car accident and aren't really too hurt, but claim lingering injury to avoid work and/or collect wages from disability. Same difference. It doesn't mean there was never a car accident, right?


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

flying object yes...UFO ... yes ....alien in Origins; NO

Why?  very simple ... has gotten the standard aviation flashing light on top ...


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

View Postqxcontinuum, on 27 October 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

flying object yes...UFO ... yes ....alien in Origins; NO

Why?  very simple ... has gotten the standard aviation flashing light on top ...

Give me a break.





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