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Peter Schiff: Why do we let Obama lie?


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#1    Yamato

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:16 AM



A top commenter on YT answered the question: "What else should we call the debt ceiling?"  best:  

The new name for the debt ceiling should be the God of Debt. We must make sacrifices to the God of Debt so that it allows us to continue to serve His ubiquitous rule. ~ randydee024

"The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the Legislature.  The Executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question" ~ James Madison
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:10 AM

why bring god in it....


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 09:39 AM

We act as if they are Gods. This man can litteraly say anything and a large % of the population believes him. Even when the lie is as plan as the nose on your face.

Some things are true, even if you dont believe them.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:18 AM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 28 October 2013 - 08:10 AM, said:

why bring god in it....
Because money is God for atheists and theists alike.

"The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the Legislature.  The Executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question" ~ James Madison
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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:38 PM

View PostYamato, on 28 October 2013 - 07:16 AM, said:


A top commenter on YT answered the question: "What else should we call the debt ceiling?"  best:  

The new name for the debt ceiling should be the God of Debt. We must make sacrifices to the God of Debt so that it allows us to continue to serve His ubiquitous rule. ~ randydee024

LOL... :)


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:52 PM

Not one explanation provided for why we let Obama lie.   Is that because there no reason, but yet, let's just ignore the fact we do it anyway?   Why are we so complacent in this country and by extension, on this board?   I couldn't even get this discussion to stick when I posted it the first time.   What are we hiding for?  What are we protecting?    Why do we let Obama lie, right under our noses like this?   Are we lacking in compassion, ignorant of the truth, selfish and therefore callous, slave to bipartisan politics, what?

"The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the Legislature.  The Executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question" ~ James Madison
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"To deny people their human rights is to challenge their very humanity.   To impose on them a wretched life of hunger and deprivation is to dehumanize them." ~ Nelson Mandela
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians.  Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." ~ Mahatma Gandhi

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:10 PM

All politicians lie, and if you think the last ten presidents (aside from Carter) never lied then you are sorely mistaken. That Presidents of all ilk promise a lot and accomplish little is the normal way of things. Obama is no different, other than the rabid, abject paranoia of a loud and vocal, crazy minority.

Edited by darkmoonlady, 28 October 2013 - 08:11 PM.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

View PostYamato, on 28 October 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Not one explanation provided for why we let Obama lie.   Is that because there no reason, but yet, let's just ignore the fact we do it anyway?   Why are we so complacent in this country and by extension, on this board?   I couldn't even get this discussion to stick when I posted it the first time.   What are we hiding for?  What are we protecting? Why do we let Obama lie, right under our noses like this?   Are we lacking in compassion, ignorant of the truth, selfish and therefore callous, slave to bipartisan politics, what?

Honestly, I don't know why we let him, or rather, the Mainstream Media, get away with it....Remember the whole "A YouTube video started the Benghazi Attack"? :no:

I am an honest person, and I tell the truth. That is why when I see a President, or any other elected official, lie outright, and constantly, it makes me mad. I don't like liars. And every time Obama opens his mouth he lies....I can't even watch the guy talk anymore.....

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:25 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 28 October 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

We act as if they are Gods. This man can litteraly say anything and a large % of the population believes him. Even when the lie is as plan as the nose on your face.

Remember, half the population did not vote for the man.  The MSM doesn't jhjust swallow his lies they protect him when he does.  The reason they do this are myriad:
1.  They got the guy elected in the first place by becoming an adjunct arm of the Obama campaign.
2.  As liberals they have a vested interest in protecting anyone on their side of the political spectrum.
3.  They really believe muc h of the garbage and lies the left put out.  They really are in shock that Obamacare is a complete and utter failure, they believed that it would work because the holy government was running it.
4.  This is not about politics because liberalism is more religion than political.  They deify their leaders and just as a deeply religious person will believe any and all lies the religious leaders tell them the liberal will believe any and all lies his political leadership tells him.  Also, like a deeply religious person, they see anyone who questions their leaders or believe in some other political philosophy as heretics that must be destroyed.  Never question their faith or its doctrines no matter how screwed up and ridiulous they are.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:29 PM

Merc....  the number is closer to 70% of the voting population didn't vote for the Ds when 40% of those who didn't vote D or R are factored into the equation.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:34 PM

View Postdarkmoonlady, on 28 October 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

All politicians lie, and if you think the last ten presidents (aside from Carter) never lied then you are sorely mistaken. That Presidents of all ilk promise a lot and accomplish little is the normal way of things. Obama is no different, other than the rabid, abject paranoia of a loud and vocal, crazy minority.

You didn't even watch the video did you? You immediately went into partisan attack mode....

"Raising the debt ceiling, doesn't add more debt" said Obama... that's not politics, that's lieing! The whole name "debt ceiling" is what that means! Raising the debt ceiling adds more debt! Duh.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:46 PM

Because they have this genius system called the two party system.

If one president lies then morons just point to when the president of the other party lied.  And it happens over and over again.

And people will still vote for the lier because they are more afraid of the other party winning if they don't vote for him.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 08:53 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 28 October 2013 - 08:46 PM, said:

Because they have this genius system called the two party system.

If one president lies then morons just point to when the president of the other party lied.  And it happens over and over again.

And people will still vote for the lier because they are more afraid of the other party winning if they don't vote for him.

I completely agree. :tsu:

I hate it, when people go Bush/Reagan did it, thinking it somehow excuses the behaviour.....it doesn't! I am very well aware that they are liars, and I don't condone it whatsoever.

I wish more people had voted for Ron Paul. When he talks he's straightforward and honest. When Obama talks he sounds too much like a snake oil salesman....

Edited by Kowalski, 28 October 2013 - 08:55 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:31 AM

View PostKowalski, on 28 October 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:

"Raising the debt ceiling, doesn't add more debt" said Obama... that's not politics, that's lieing! The whole name "debt ceiling" is what that means! Raising the debt ceiling adds more debt! Duh.

um no that's not what it means. The debt ceiling is NOT  a credit limit. The debt was ALREADY spent. The debt ceiling just creates an artificial construct about PAYING the debt. It's the stupidist misnamed law ever created and it used by pols to mislead many people, like you, who don't understand it.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:37 AM

View Postacidhead, on 28 October 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

Merc....  the number is closer to 70% of the voting population didn't vote for the Ds when 40% of those who didn't vote D or R are factored into the equation.

please. layoff the acid. Of 129million votes Obama got almost 66 millon or 51% of the total vote. Romny got 61million. So that leaves your "didn't vote D or R" with a few paltry million votes that went nowhere.

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