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#1    Kowalski

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 09:37 PM

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(CBS News) CBS News has learned more than two million Americans have been told they cannot renew their current insurance policies -- more than triple the number of people said to be buying insurance under the new Affordable Care Act, commonly known as Obamacare.

There have been estimates about hundreds of thousands of people losing coverage, CBS News' Jan Crawford reported on "CBS This Morning." CBS News has reached out to insurance companies across the country to determine some of the real numbers -- and this is just the tip of the iceberg, Crawford said. The people who are opening the letters are shocked to learn they can't keep their insurance policies despite President Obama's assurances to the contrary.

The White House is on the defensive trying to explain it, after Mr. Obama repeatedly said, "If you like your doctor or health care plan, you can keep it."
White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said, "What the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care Act to create minimum standards of coverage."
It's an unexpected reality of Obamacare being told through anecdotes in local papers and on social media. But the hard numbers reveal the evidence is far more than anecdotal. CBS News has confirmed with insurance companies across the country that more than two million people are getting notices they no longer can keep their existing plans. In California, there are 279,000; in Michigan, 140,000; Florida, 300,000; and in New Jersey, 800,000. And those numbers are certain to go even higher. Some companies who tell CBS News they've sent letters won't say how many.
Industry experts like Larry Levitt, of the Kaiser Family Foundation, say the insurance companies have no choice. "What we're seeing now is reality coming into play," he said.
Obamacare forces them to drop many of their plans that don't meet the law's 10 minimum standards, including maternity care, emergency visits, mental health treatment and even pediatric dental care.

Link: http://www.cbsnews.c...nsurance-plans/

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#2    Wickian

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:04 PM

Quick question, would a single man be required to pay for maternity care as well?


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 10:05 PM

If only people would of warned us about this before hand. Oh wait people did

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 11:04 PM

Heard today that these just represent the DECEMBER renewals.  We can expect these kind of numbers monthly through the end of December 2014.

But now worries, the President is already blaming those dastardly insurance companies (you know, the ones who helped write the damned law) so everything is going as planned.

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:00 AM

View PostWickian, on 30 October 2013 - 10:04 PM, said:

Quick question, would a single man be required to pay for maternity care as well?

Yes, he would be. Much like a 75 year old woman, must as well.....


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 12:06 AM

View PostRafterman, on 30 October 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

Heard today that these just represent the DECEMBER renewals.  We can expect these kind of numbers monthly through the end of December 2014.

But now worries, the President is already blaming those dastardly insurance companies (you know, the ones who helped write the damned law) so everything is going as planned.

Well theoretically that should be the worst month, shouldn't it.  With open enrollment in November for most companies.  But who knows this whole thing seems like a fisting and I don't think they will stop until they reach the back of my teeth.


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Posted 31 October 2013 - 01:31 PM

View PostKowalski, on 31 October 2013 - 12:00 AM, said:

Yes, he would be. Much like a 75 year old woman, must as well.....

It all sounds outrageous BUT the Secular Progressive Elitists in Washington know better then the American General Public.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 12:31 PM

The report states:

The Obama administration said there were 4.7 million unique visits to the website during its first 24 hours.
But here's the not-so-funny part: Only six users were able to enroll, according to CBS News.
The figure is within newly released documents from Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service "war room" meetings that took place after the website failed on Oct. 1, CBS News reports.
By the afternoon of Oct. 2, the number of enrollments was "approximately 100," CBS says.

Ninja came on this site within 24 hours of Obamacare starting and went on and on about how easy his enrolling in Obamacare and what BS all the complaints were.  So our boy Ninja was one of the six or is he a liar?  He also said his wife enrollled so would that mean they represent 33% of all enrollees?   Maybe he was on a state site.   LMAO

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 01:51 PM

View PostMerc14, on 01 November 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

The report states:

The Obama administration said there were 4.7 million unique visits to the website during its first 24 hours.
But here's the not-so-funny part: Only six users were able to enroll, according to CBS News.
The figure is within newly released documents from Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Service "war room" meetings that took place after the website failed on Oct. 1, CBS News reports.
By the afternoon of Oct. 2, the number of enrollments was "approximately 100," CBS says.

Ninja came on this site within 24 hours of Obamacare starting and went on and on about how easy his enrolling in Obamacare and what BS all the complaints were.  So our boy Ninja was one of the six or is he a liar?  He also said his wife enrollled so would that mean they represent 33% of all enrollees?   Maybe he was on a state site.   LMAO

Something you should know: I'm starting to hear the word - Impeachment -.

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--- If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. ---

High Crimes and Misdemeanors : F R A U D

Obama is guilty of orchestrating and perpetrating a MASSIVE fraud on the American people.

About 19 Million Americans will lose their Individual Heath Care Plans.

When you add in the Employer Mandate, then about 93 Million Americans will lose their Health Care Plans.

Are you ready for an Impeachment Trial in the U.S. Senate ?

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Obama delayed the Employer Mandate for 1 Year in order to make himself look less guilty.


#10    Kowalski

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:01 PM

View PostCyberKen, on 01 November 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Something you should know: I'm starting to hear the word - Impeachment -.

16 Words

--- If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan. ---

High Crimes and Misdemeanors : F R A U D

Obama is guilty of orchestrating and perpetrating a MASSIVE fraud on the American people.

About 19 Million Americans will lose their Individual Heath Care Plans.

When you add in the Employer Mandate, then about 93 Million Americans will lose their Health Care Plans.

Are you ready for an Impeachment Trial in the U.S. Senate ?

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Obama delayed the Employer Mandate for 1 Year in order to make himself look less guilty.

Obama would never have gotten reelected if he had told the truth......


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Posted 01 November 2013 - 03:08 PM

View PostKowalski, on 01 November 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Obama would never have gotten reelected if he had told the truth......

In addition to the Fraud Charge, i guess they could throw in Using the IRS to Attack the Tea Party.

Call in Lois Lerner during the Impeachment Trial in the U.S. Senate.

Grant her immunity and then find out what did she know and when did she know it.

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 09:32 PM

View PostCyberKen, on 01 November 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

In addition to the Fraud Charge, i guess they could throw in Using the IRS to Attack the Tea Party.

Call in Lois Lerner during the Impeachment Trial in the U.S. Senate.

Grant her immunity and then find out what did she know and when did she know it.

I'm not sure about a Benghazi Charge. - Who gave the order to stand down? -

Well he didn't know about any of those things until he heard it on the news, remember so maybe we can impeach him for gross incompetence.

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 01:48 PM

View PostMerc14, on 01 November 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

Well he didn't know about any of those things until he heard it on the news, remember so maybe we can impeach him for gross incompetence.

Unless we have a Deep Throat (Mark Felt) kind of guy come forward and implicate Obama.


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Posted 04 November 2013 - 07:01 AM

Our last president starts a war on a lie, aka a fraud, which kill hundreds of thousands of people, yet people are upset about something with good intentions for them?

Which one upsets you more? Or rather, which one should?

We've all heard these impeachment calls before, last time was from the other side, and nothing happened. Obama won't be impeached, so release yourself of this fantasy.

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Posted 04 November 2013 - 09:14 AM

Government always has good intentions with its programs.   If that's the reason to support anything, we must support everything.  

Government can't afford the health care it had already.  Piling more on at this point has past the point of fiscal insanity.

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