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#1171    Frank Merton

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 07:02 AM

View Postspacecowboy342, on 23 April 2014 - 01:11 AM, said:

That's why I swore off religion.
My religion has a lot of the addictive things to it, such as beautiful music and rituals, and (usually -- sometimes they are an assault on the landscape) buildings, and a long tradition, and strong ethical principles, but it doesn't have a god (that part is optional).


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 07:04 AM

View PostThe Id3al Experience, on 28 April 2014 - 06:51 AM, said:

Sorry that is contradictory.

Agruement 1: If a man murders its not Gods fault
Agruement 2: Time and Space are illusions, Thus God and creation are one
Arguement 3: God is inseparable from every part of his manifestation

Logical Conclusion: God not only created, but is apart of murder.
Logical and reason for deciding there is no God, but people resort to ancient myths such as Adam and Eve to try to get around the logic.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 01:46 PM

View PostMr Walker, on 27 April 2014 - 11:29 PM, said:

Who knows? It is a loaded question.

Suppose you took all those precautions and still saw the lights. What would be your rationale then (marsh gas?) Suppose on investigation you found a group of cute little humanoid flying creatures.  What then? That you were delusional? How far do you go to deny reality? Anyway, if you can't tell fairies from lights generated by heat exhaustion/dehydration, you really shouldn't be hiking alone in the woods in the first place.

If I ever see flying Humanoid creatures?I will wave and say "Hellooo! Do you know Mr. Walker, and does he drink his Milk like a good boy?".

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:02 PM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 26 April 2014 - 04:12 AM, said:



Einstein's God was a metaphor for natural states.Anyone can look up the letters he wrote concerning this misconception.

Well, if this is a misconception to you, your opinion of his views could also be a misconception. He never said that he was only
kidding. He did declare though: "I could never be an atheist" when asked if he was one.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:05 PM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 26 April 2014 - 04:23 AM, said:



In this case Captain Crunch exists too.How else did those sweet corn puffs get in those boxes with his picture on it?

Yes, definitely, you are joking.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:08 PM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 26 April 2014 - 04:55 PM, said:

The Universe has no meaning.We are a product of the Universe in that we evolved to give meaning to things.

Theists offer a fantasy land that cannot be proven, except in their own minds.

Nonbelief only offers reality.I think everyone needs a dose of reality by living for a week how people lived 2,000 years ago for starters.

If non-belief offers reality, please, share with me the reality that the universe caused itself to exist because there was nothing that preceded it to do that job. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:11 PM

View PostHawkin, on 27 April 2014 - 04:44 AM, said:

IMO, I think there is truth to the bible whether it's Hebrew, Christian or Muslim. They all are spinoffs from each other.
But these doctrines (over time) have been embellished, rewritten and manipulated to suit mans views in a tribal sense.
It's a far cry from the original. Take gossip for example. You tell 1 person about something you witness and by the time
it gets spread around the story grows taller.

On the other hand, leave the Bible, the NT and the Koran aside and use Physics to demonstrate to me how the universe caused
itself to exist.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:53 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 28 April 2014 - 07:02 AM, said:

My religion has a lot of the addictive things to it, such as beautiful music and rituals, and (usually -- sometimes they are an assault on the landscape) buildings, and a long tradition, and strong ethical principles, but it doesn't have a god (that part is optional).
I could go for that type of religion


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 12:55 AM

View PostBen Masada, on 28 April 2014 - 10:08 PM, said:

If non-belief offers reality, please, share with me the reality that the universe caused itself to exist because there was nothing that preceded it to do that job. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt.
Do we really have to go through all this again?


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:16 AM

View PostBen Masada, on 28 April 2014 - 10:02 PM, said:



Well, if this is a misconception to you, your opinion of his views could also be a misconception. He never said that he was only
kidding. He did declare though: "I could never be an atheist" when asked if he was one.

The evidence is on paper.

http://www.richardda...efore-his-death


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:18 AM

View PostBen Masada, on 28 April 2014 - 10:05 PM, said:



Yes, definitely, you are joking.

It's a joke that in your mind you proved God when you have not.

Where is your Nobel peace prize?

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:24 AM

View PostBen Masada, on 28 April 2014 - 10:08 PM, said:



If non-belief offers reality, please, share with me the reality that the universe caused itself to exist because there was nothing that preceded it to do that job. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt.

If nothing was around to cause the Universe to exist?Then there was no magic sky daddy around either.The imaginary friend you worship is from the same groups of people that buried Babies in the foundations of dwellings to appease the wind from knocking it down.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:26 AM

View PostBen Masada, on 28 April 2014 - 10:08 PM, said:

If non-belief offers reality, please, share with me the reality that the universe caused itself to exist because there was nothing that preceded it to do that job. Let me give you the benefit of the doubt.
Sheesh how tiresome that issue is.  I haven't read the other responses yet and I'm sure this got attacked already, but let me just point out that causation is an empirical, not a logical, conclusion we make about the world.  If you don't understand what that means you are out of your depth and relying on flawed and uninformed thinking.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 04:57 PM

How can a fictional character create anything???

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 05:21 PM

View Postancient astronaut, on 29 April 2014 - 04:57 PM, said:

How can a fictional character create anything???

You exist, so God must be real....DERP! DERP! DERP!

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