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#1    OverSword

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:38 PM

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You may have your suspicions about what’s going on behind closed doors at the White House.
But according to one of President Obama’s former body guards it’s much worse than we can even imagine.
Dan Bongino has protected numerous Presidents over his career, including President Obama. He has been within ear-shot of many a discussion in the Oval Office, but up until this administration has stayed out of the lime light. Apparently, however, the activities of this administration are so abhorrent that he could no longer keep quiet.
Bongino is so upset with what he witnessed that he is now running for Congress because he feels it’s the only way to take America back from the sycophants who have made every effort to enrich themselves with money and power at the expense of the American people.
How bad is it?


We’re in a lot of trouble.
The President sees government – and I think it’s because of his lack of experience and maybe community organizing in the past – as this shiny new toy.
For all the disagreements I had with Clinton, Carter and Bush there were always limits… there was that line you just didn’t cross… We cross it seemingly every day. We’re lost in the scandals…
The Jamie Dimon shakedown at Chase… the HHS scandal.. Kathleen Sebelius shaking down the health care industry for money… the IRS… it’s to the point where these scandals in and of themselves would be huge back-breaking scandals [but] are just lost in the scandal fog of this administration…
It’s worse than people know… and I’m not trying to scare you either.

This is coming from someone who has stood next to Presidents for his entire career.

The implications are absolutely terrifying, especially considering how bad the publicly known scandals already are. Can you imagine what’s happening outside the view of Americans?
This is not about Republican or Democrat, it’s about liberty, pure and simple, and this administration has done more to damage our individual rights than any that has come before it.
Bongino expresses this succinctly when discussing the NSA scandal and the administration’s use of the information acquired by government snoops all over the country.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:45 PM

And if he utters a WORD of specifics he'll be arrested so fast it will look like he spontaneously combusted.  He'd better be watching his six - first thing you know we'll learn that he's a crack addicted child molesting pornographer who dresses in things that make him feel pretty...

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 07:52 PM

Sooo...there were limits with Bush?  Were those limits in place in 2005 when the domestic surveillance began?


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:01 PM

View Postand then, on 06 November 2013 - 07:45 PM, said:

And if he utters a WORD of specifics he'll be arrested so fast it will look like he spontaneously combusted.  He'd better be watching his six - first thing you know we'll learn that he's a crack addicted child molesting pornographer who dresses in things that make him feel pretty...

I would agree. I "think" that's it's a Federal offense for a Secret Service agent on the Presidential Protective Detail to reveal specifics of overheard conversations. Not sure how all that works though.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:02 PM

View PostAgent0range, on 06 November 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Sooo...there were limits with Bush?  Were those limits in place in 2005 when the domestic surveillance began?

But..but... your parties president was bad too! Okay he was

please im sick of hearing that.

Is their anything Obama could do that would make you think he is corrupt?

Edited by spartan max2, 06 November 2013 - 08:02 PM.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:05 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 06 November 2013 - 08:02 PM, said:

But..but... your parties president was bad too! Okay he was

please im sick of hearing that.

Is their anything Obama could do that would make you think he is corrupt?

Whoa whoa fella.  Obama is not my party.  I am not a democrat or a republican.  They both suck.  All politicians suck.  With that being said, I am also not the type of person that is going to sit around and cry about it for eight years.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:16 PM

View Postpallidin, on 06 November 2013 - 08:01 PM, said:

I would agree. I "think" that's it's a Federal offense for a Secret Service agent on the Presidential Protective Detail to reveal specifics of overheard conversations. Not sure how all that works though.
And it SHOULD be - even for this tool.  If a president is worrying about every conversation being used on the evening tabloids he'd not get much done.  But when this tradition bound honorable professional deems it necessary to speak even this much - it kind of tells how bad things really are...we're not talking Hillary throwing a vase at Bill here.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:17 PM

I've been accused many times of the "but your president was bad, too" position.

The only thing is, that's never been my position. My question has always been, "You who decry Obama so loudly now, why were you so silent during Bush's unilateral, aggressive war in Iraq, when he slept at the switch through the Summer and Fall 2008 Wall Street Collapse and when he championed the Re-Institution of Torture draped in the American flag?"

The silence back then was deafening. I could only hear the waving of the flag.

Edited by szentgyorgy, 06 November 2013 - 08:18 PM.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:17 PM

View PostAgent0range, on 06 November 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Whoa whoa fella.  Obama is not my party.  I am not a democrat or a republican.  They both suck.  All politicians suck.  With that being said, I am also not the type of person that is going to sit around and cry about it for eight years.
"Crying" is one thing - and I agree with you on that but protesting usurpations of freedom and even crimes done by a president isn't exactly in the same category for most folks.

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:18 PM

Sorry, the man has nothing to lose, but everything to gain.

I would question his motives before I'd believe the 'hints at impropriety' that he suggests.

If he has damning evidence or proof then he needs to nut up and share it.  All he is doing is making shadowy statements and hopes he'll get elected because of Obama-hate.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:21 PM

View Postand then, on 06 November 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

"Crying" is one thing - and I agree with you on that but protesting usurpations of freedom and even crimes done by a president isn't exactly in the same category for most folks.

Well, "crying" on a forum IS NOT striving for change.  The breaking of laws is open to interpretation.  Lying, for one, is not against the law...


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:21 PM

View Postand then, on 06 November 2013 - 08:16 PM, said:

And it SHOULD be - even for this tool.  If a president is worrying about every conversation being used on the evening tabloids he'd not get much done.  But when this tradition bound honorable professional deems it necessary to speak even this much - it kind of tells how bad things really are...we're not talking Hillary throwing a vase at Bill here.

So, how do we know this particular individual is that ultimately trustworthy "tradition bound honorable professional?"

Which tradition(s) is he bound to?

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:23 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 06 November 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

I've been accused many times of the "but your president was bad, too" position.

The only thing is, that's never been my position. My question has always been, "You who decry Obama so loudly now, why were you so silent during Bush's unilateral, aggressive war in Iraq, when he slept at the switch through the Summer and Fall 2008 Wall Street Collapse and when he championed the Re-Institution of Torture draped in the American flag?"

The silence back then was deafening. I could only hear the waving of the flag.
You really presume too much if you assume I was silent about GWB's many crimes against freedom, life, and the world.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:27 PM

View Postszentgyorgy, on 06 November 2013 - 08:17 PM, said:

I've been accused many times of the "but your president was bad, too" position.

The only thing is, that's never been my position. My question has always been, "You who decry Obama so loudly now, why were you so silent during Bush's unilateral, aggressive war in Iraq, when he slept at the switch through the Summer and Fall 2008 Wall Street Collapse and when he championed the Re-Institution of Torture draped in the American flag?"

The silence back then was deafening. I could only hear the waving of the flag.

Well, that brings me to another wonderful point.  I supported and still support the war in Iraq (no, I will not debate about that in this thread).  I also fully support the NSA spying.  I don't support people like this former secret service agent who is clearly some tea party nut who thinks it's his turn to get famous...

Edited by Agent0range, 06 November 2013 - 08:28 PM.


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Posted 06 November 2013 - 08:30 PM

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View PostAgent0range, on 06 November 2013 - 08:05 PM, said:

Whoa whoa fella.  Obama is not my party.  I am not a democrat or a republican.  They both suck.  All politicians suck.  With that being said, I am also not the type of person that is going to sit around and cry about it for eight years.
That's why I find this whole business of party Politics so laughable. If anyone even suggests that Mr. O is not perhaps yet up to the level of Pol Pot, and that perhaps he's not actually the Antichrist but is merely another Politician, and one who's been fairly ineffectual at that, then you're howled down by people saying things like " The fact that you aren't angry about that speaks volumes about what kind of a person you are.  I think you and many like you truly believed the BS the democrats spouted for the last 4 years and don't believe you are happy with the way things are turning out.  Only the most delusional would be happy about what is happening right now.  You, however, should be ashamed of yourself for defending it.  ". So honestly, what can you say.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

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