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Bill to ban body art/augmentn passes senate

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#1    Simbi Laveau

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:26 AM

If this has been posted already, I missed it.

http://politicalblin...-passes-senate/

But apparently the insanity to violate even more personal rights, now extends to body art, augmentation and piercings.


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Senator Missy Irvin of Mountain View, Arkansas sponsored the bill entitled ”An Act To Limit Body Art Procedures”. She says that body modifications should be limited to “traditional” tattoos and piercings.
Her proposal was to essentially ban scarification procedures and dermal implants, as well as certain tattoos which remain yet to be defined as by the vague language of the bill she sponsored.

Almost unbelievably, this bill passed by a 26-4 vote. Following this, the bill was sent to the House, where it took on even more vague language. See the link above for the bill as it was eventually “compromised” on in the House. The scarification ban from the Senate version was removed, while considerable ambiguous language remained. The House “compromise” bans dermal implants unless performed by a doctor. This essentially, and in practice, outlaws the body modification.
As well, the bill’s vague, undefined language – even in the edited, House version – while editing out some of the original language on tattoos, fails to define a number of important issues raised by the Senate version, including what they mean by “cosmetic” tattoos as opposed to “non-cosmetic” tattoos.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:58 AM

Don't give Queensland ideas!
Because they already want to so this.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:52 AM

"She says that body modifications should be limited to “traditional” tattoos and piercings. "
Well that is not so bad, traditional tattoos and piercings can be very extreme, as long as by traditional they mean tribal and there is no limit on cultural and religious styles. It mean that all parts of the body can still be tattooed and that all piercings can continue to be carried out.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:13 AM

I believe implants should only be performed by a doctor but if the language is too vague then there will be infringement on personal freedoms for some of the more extensive piercings I've seen around.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:40 AM

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First off... I deeply dislike tattoos and "extreme" piercings...

However, I support another person's decision to get (or not get) these as they see fit... IMO the only restrictions any govt should place on
these is in the lines of safety - not esthetics... making certain the procedures are sanitary, etc...

Also... there is nothing quite as dangerous as a vaguely written law...


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 11:56 AM

View PostTaun, on 12 November 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

First off... I deeply dislike tattoos and "extreme" piercings...

However, I support another person's decision to get (or not get) these as they see fit... IMO the only restrictions any govt should place on
these is in the lines of safety - not esthetics... making certain the procedures are sanitary, etc...

Also... there is nothing quite as dangerous as a vaguely written law...

I agree with you completely. It might be (in my estimation) 'silly as all get out' to mess with your body in this manner, but it's not the government's job to dictate about cosmetic choices.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:15 PM

So this means officers now have a reason to see you naked if they suspect you might have tattoos?

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:26 PM

View Postbulveye, on 12 November 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

"She says that body modifications should be limited to “traditional” tattoos and piercings. "
Well that is not so bad, traditional tattoos and piercings can be very extreme, as long as by traditional they mean tribal and there is no limit on cultural and religious styles. It mean that all parts of the body can still be tattooed and that all piercings can continue to be carried out.

Well this is the thing. They are being very vague about defining what is "traditional"
This may mean only ear piercings are allowed?
Or MOM tattoos inside a heart.
This is a HUGE in figment on civil rights.

I do not like too many tats, or extreme body mods, but it's none of my business.
People also make a living doing these things, and some forms of fashion revolve around these things.
I don't like bad hair pieces and bad tweed suits, but I don't tell the Senate how to dress or do their comb over, and I wish they would be what's made illegal

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 12 November 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Well this is the thing. They are being very vague about defining what is "traditional"
This may mean only ear piercings are allowed?
Or MOM tattoos inside a heart.
This is a HUGE in figment on civil rights.

I do not like too many tats, or extreme body mods, but it's none of my business.
People also make a living doing these things, and some forms of fashion revolve around these things.
I don't like bad hair pieces and bad tweed suits, but I don't tell the Senate how to dress or do their comb over, and I wish they would be what's made illegal
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I don't have any tats.  I don't like them.  I don't want one...but by god...if anyone tells me I can't have one...I'll go out tomorrow and get ten of them!

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:45 PM

View Postjoc, on 12 November 2013 - 12:36 PM, said:

Hey everyone,
See how this Obamacare thing is going?  (huh)  Oh yeah.   First they tell you what you must buy...then they tell you what you must NOT eat.  Now they are telling you what you can and cannot say.   Freedom of Speech?   Right...that archaic idea from the nimrods of the past lovingly known by the prolatereat as the 'founding fathers'.   Well...there is a new Father in town boys.  Obama.  He is your Father, He is your Mother, He is your sister and most of all, he is your BIG BROTHER!  

I don't have any tats.  I don't like them.  I don't want one...but by god...if anyone tells me I can't have one...I'll go out tomorrow and get ten of them!

Word to the Government:  Leave us the hell alone!

I can't actually read the article (it's blocked here at work) but unless it says otherwise, this really has very little to do with Obamacare... I am by no means a supporter of Mr Obama, or his policies - and I strongly distrust
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 01:17 PM

Last I heard they're planning to have licenses issued for 'approved tattoos and piercings' for a small fee ... that's what some ink forums are debating anyway ...

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 02:21 PM

Hrm... I opened the PDF that is with the article. It kind of only changes a bit of definition, looks like it adds in some language- though it's titled limiting body art, it didn't actually say anything about limitations. Being dissatisfied with that, I looked up SB 387. And there's more than tat stuff in it, there's also things that apply to cosmetic procedures- like facial peels or skin lightening at dermatologists offices. There are prohibitions listed, but it's more along the lines of can't tat drunk people or give tats in nail salons.
I might be mistaken in this, but looking at the two pieces, it kind of looks like the piece in the article is amending who is performing what body art rather than limiting body art itself. Adding subdermal and scarring to the list, and limiting it to what artists can perform those procedures.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 03:33 PM

So I can still get my Double Ought Prince Albert done?

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:22 PM

View Postrashore, on 12 November 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Hrm... I opened the PDF that is with the article. It kind of only changes a bit of definition, looks like it adds in some language- though it's titled limiting body art, it didn't actually say anything about limitations. Being dissatisfied with that, I looked up SB 387. And there's more than tat stuff in it, there's also things that apply to cosmetic procedures- like facial peels or skin lightening at dermatologists offices. There are prohibitions listed, but it's more along the lines of can't tat drunk people or give tats in nail salons.
I might be mistaken in this, but looking at the two pieces, it kind of looks like the piece in the article is amending who is performing what body art rather than limiting body art itself. Adding subdermal and scarring to the list, and limiting it to what artists can perform those procedures.

Ah, ok. That sounds much more reasonable. I was picturing a bunch of old conservative Christians in a big room raising their hands when the phrase "ban tattoos" is spoken by the presenter. :innocent:

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:30 PM

View PostRafterman, on 12 November 2013 - 03:33 PM, said:

So I can still get my Double Ought Prince Albert done?

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