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#16    Sir Wearer of Hats

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 11:12 PM

View Postninjadude, on 17 November 2013 - 05:59 PM, said:

In the US, the president signing the law is not just a rubber stamp.
I'm genuinely curious now. Have there been any other instances of Presidents ignoring the will of the Senate and the House of Reps?

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Posted 18 November 2013 - 07:54 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 17 November 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

I'm genuinely curious now. Have there been any other instances of Presidents ignoring the will of the Senate and the House of Reps?

Yes, President Richard Nixon had a bunker mentality.


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Posted 18 November 2013 - 09:54 PM

View PostCyberKen, on 18 November 2013 - 07:54 PM, said:

Yes, President Richard Nixon had a bunker mentality.
And did things go well for him?
(nope)

I must not fear. Fear is the Mind-Killer. It is the little death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and to move through me. And when it is gone I will turn the inner eye to see it's path.
When the fear is gone, there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:27 AM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 17 November 2013 - 11:12 PM, said:

I'm genuinely curious now. Have there been any other instances of Presidents ignoring the will of the Senate and the House of Reps?

the wiki is your friend. there have been thousands. Obama has vetoed two.
https://en.wikipedia...idential_vetoes

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Posted 19 November 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 18 November 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

And did things go well for him?
(nope)

President Richard Nixon got re-elected !


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 03:49 PM

View Postninjadude, on 16 November 2013 - 08:11 PM, said:

First it's not on his desk. Second, it is his job to uphold his ideals. Maybe you just don't understand the legislative process.

The Presidents job is NOT to "uphold his ideals"... The Presidents job is to Administratively represent the PEOPLE, just as Congress Legislatively represents us and the Judiciary represents us ...er um... Judicially...
Politicians in a Democracy (all forms) are Public Servants not Public Masters... Though most of them quickly forget that....


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 04:57 PM

View PostTaun, on 19 November 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

The Presidents job is NOT to "uphold his ideals"... The Presidents job is to Administratively represent the PEOPLE, just as Congress Legislatively represents us and the Judiciary represents us ...er um... Judicially...
Politicians in a Democracy (all forms) are Public Servants not Public Masters... Though most of them quickly forget that....

Oh , i see. So it is not King Obama ?

That explains why everybody is keeping a very close eye Obama's Approval Numbers.  39% and falling.....

The next drop will occur November 30, 2013 when HealthCare.gov is still DEAD.....RIP.


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:02 PM

View PostCyberKen, on 19 November 2013 - 04:57 PM, said:

Oh , i see. So it is not King Obama ?

That explains why everybody is keeping a very close eye Obama's Approval Numbers.  39% and falling.....

The next drop will occur November 30, 2013 when HealthCare.gov is still DEAD.....RIP.

I never once said "King" Obama... Nor did I mention any one particular politican... And approval ratings are important BECAUSE they are servants...
If they were truely "Masters" our approval would be a moot point...


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Posted 19 November 2013 - 05:17 PM

View PostTaun, on 19 November 2013 - 05:02 PM, said:

I never once said "King" Obama... Nor did I mention any one particular politican... And approval ratings are important BECAUSE they are servants...
If they were truely "Masters" our approval would be a moot point...

Obama's Approval Rating % is very low.

More importantly, Obama has lost credibility. Nobody believes what he says.

- If you want to keep your doctor, you can keep your doctor. -

- If you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan  ---- PERIOD !

Well, Pinocchio Obama got 4 Pinocchio's from the Washington Post.

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Democrat Kirsten Powers says Obama needs to stop lying. She says Obama keeps calling her old plan - substandard -.

That makes her blood boil. There was  - nothing - wrong with her old plan that just got cancelled.

The truth is that this is all just - wealth redistribution - .  People who can afford to pay more are subsidizing people who cannot.

The White House is NOT saying that.

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Well, good for you Kirsten!  It's called - Subterfuge - and it's right out of the Secular Progressive Tool Box.





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