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#1    seeder

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:32 PM

Japan and South Korea defy China air zone rules

Japan and South Korea have both flown planes unannounced through China's newly-declared air defence zone, officials from both nations say.   Japanese aircraft had conducted routine "surveillance activity" over the East China Sea zone, the top government spokesman said.

South Korea had also conducted a flight, its defence ministry said.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...d-asia-25133957

Plus just heard on the TV China is sending a warchip to the area..


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U.S. sends B-52s over China-claimed waters

Japan and the USA will challenge China's claim to a stretch of the ocean during military exercises this week.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:39 PM

Australia have been saying things about China's air space rules.  Why is everyone testing China, come on guys.


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 01:18 PM

View Postkrypter3, on 28 November 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

Australia have been saying things about China's air space rules.  Why is everyone testing China, come on guys.
When you think about it, it's China doing the testing.  They are the one's who changed the status quo.  They are the ones who are attempting to impose their will over the situation as it existed.  If they are not called on it then they will continue and be emboldened.  It has always been this way among nations.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 03:17 PM

The Chinese have a habit of flexing muscles which they do frequently to see how far other nations will react, they did this with Mongolia and Tibet and because there was little reaction gradually moved in and took over, then over a period of time they claim that it is now Chinese sovereign territory, very clever and very patient.They have even sworn that over time they will again occupy Taiwan.

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 04:18 PM

'Claim' South 'China' Sea ? :lol:

'Occupy' Taiwan ?

Took over Mongolia and Tibet ???? :rofl:

Status Quo ?

oh dear ... you guys seems to think that only your version of 'World' History is the only definitive version there is don't you ?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 07:09 PM

China has sent warplanes to its newly declared air defence zone in the East China Sea, state media reports.

The vast zone, announced last week, covers territory claimed by China, Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

China has said all planes transiting the zone must file flight plans and identify themselves, or face "defensive emergency measures"

http://www.bbc.co.uk...-china-25144465

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 09:03 PM

Ahhh ... let's get in the proper mood now shall we ...






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Posted 28 November 2013 - 10:14 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 28 November 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

'Claim' South 'China' Sea ? :lol:

'Occupy' Taiwan ?

Took over Mongolia and Tibet ???? :rofl:

Status Quo ?

oh dear ... you guys seems to think that only your version of 'World' History is the only definitive version there is don't you ?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:03 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 28 November 2013 - 10:14 PM, said:

Well son if it hadn't of been for us lot ,your lot would be speaking Japanese .

really ?

the britches got a little tight over the years eh ?

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:08 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 28 November 2013 - 11:03 PM, said:

really ?

the britches got a little tight over the years eh ?

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:13 PM

View Postspud the mackem, on 28 November 2013 - 11:08 PM, said:

Sarcasm gets you no where.

on the contrary ... you're the one that is stuck with the death and destruction ...

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 05:38 AM

There's a submerged rock in it for South Korea.  I was wondering who benefits...

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:01 PM

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There's a submerged rock in it for South Korea.  I was wondering who benefits...

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Until 1969, these islands were simply "useless" for both Japan and China. Only after the discovery of natural resources under the Diaoyu Islands, did the dispute of ownership ignite the blasting fuse of territorial confrontations between two "superpowers" in the Asian region. This research reveals that the Diaoyu Islands case is not merely a political contention because of economic causes, but this dispute deeply involves cultural and historical conflicts of 2,000 years of Sino-Japanese relations.

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Diaoyu Islands dispute about resources not land

Cary Huang in Beijing


PUBLISHED : Tuesday, 04 December, 2012, 12:00am
UPDATED : Tuesday, 04 December, 2012, 4:36am





The dispute over the Diaoyus is about more than national pride - ownership of the rocky archipelago will give access to rich resources


Despite the fact both governments agreed "to work together to make the East China Sea a 'Sea of Peace, Cooperation and Friendship'" in a joint statement issued in May 2008, their relations have faltered badly, especially since Tokyo's provocative move to nationalise the island in September. This led to both nations having armed vessels loitering around the islands for weeks until recently - sending diplomatic temperatures soaring and leading to international calls for cool heads.

... While both US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta told Beijing that Washington maintained a neutral stance on the sovereignty issues, they made the point that the Diaoyu islands were covered by the US-Japan treaty.
Sun said that Beijing perceived the deployment of US missiles in Japan, US involvement in the dispute between the Philippines and China over islands in the South East China Sea and the aggravation of the conflict over the Diaoyu islands as elements of a US attempt to deny China its legitimate rights to resources and the peaceful development of Chinese commercial interests in the region.


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There has been much diplomacy throughout the years and peaceful cross region discussions regarding the future resources of the area among the many that has an interest but then the US elbowed their way into the discussions and the Russians thought 'why not ?' and the fecal matter hit the fan so to speak ....


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:50 PM

I think it's about what China perceives as a weakened America.  They will push as hard as they can to find where the new boundaries of a cowardly American president are...

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:36 PM

This is natural i think, if your neighbor builds a shed or whatever in the back garden and its next to your fence, you'll want to inspect it





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