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#1    danielost

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:22 AM

By how it treats its children?  Then what is said by a society that murders its children.  There are two nations where it is the normal thing to do.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:38 AM

Judged by whom? If you're referring to abortion it's legal in a lot of places.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 06:43 AM

Which nations murder children?


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:12 AM

If you're using religion as an excuse then dont bother


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostAlmagest, on 29 November 2013 - 06:38 AM, said:

Judged by whom? If you're referring to abortion it's legal in a lot of places.

That just makes things worse doesn't.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:29 AM

View PostRlyeh, on 29 November 2013 - 06:43 AM, said:

Which nations murder children?

China due to their one child only policy.  Parents get abortions if the infant is a girl.  The united states because the child is just a parasite.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:30 AM

I think danielost is referring to two nations where abortions are motivated by cultural gender preference; at least this is how I understood his post.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:56 AM

View Postdanielost, on 29 November 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

China due to their one child only policy.  Parents get abortions if the infant is a girl.  The united states because the child is just a parasite.
Call me cruel, but until the fetus grows to the point of being able to sustain it's own life it is technically a parasite.  It takes from the host and gives nothing the host wants in return(assuming the host doesn't want a baby).

Granted most pregnancies that end up as abortions can easily be avoided with some common sense, trying to turn a woman into an unwilling baby factory isn't a much better moral choice in my opinion.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:59 AM

Abortions are probably immoral, the later in the term the more immoral.  Making them illegal however has consequences that are even worse.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:09 PM

Who has the right to judge morality for someone else? I would rather see abortions than abused or neglected children who had parents that either couldn't or wouldn't care for them


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:10 PM

View Postdanielost, on 29 November 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

China due to their one child only policy.  Parents get abortions if the infant is a girl.  The united states because the child is just a parasite.
No no, I said murder. Which nations murder children?


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:12 PM

View Postdanielost, on 29 November 2013 - 11:27 AM, said:

That just makes things worse doesn't.
How does abortion make things worse?


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:25 PM

Abused and neglected and unwanted children who grow up to be criminals; abortion mills killing babies and mothers; mothers killing themselves in attempts at self-abortion.  Things like that.  Besides, such laws have to be enforced, which means more police and more jails and more intrusion into people's private lives.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:33 PM

View PostRlyeh, on 29 November 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

No no, I said murder. Which nations murder children?
The question raises another to me.  What would you consider murder of children to mean?  I believe abortion for convenience - which is mostly the case in the US - is wrong.  But I also believe it is a choice a man and woman who created the child should make together - not the government.  But when exactly would you consider ending the life of a baby as murder?

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:40 PM

View Postdanielost, on 29 November 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

China due to their one child only policy.  Parents get abortions if the infant is a girl.  The united states because the child is just a parasite.

There is something that needs to be addressed here. Eventually, provided we don't end ourselves prematurely, ALL countries will have to adopt a similar policy. The planet isn't getting any bigger, we have finite resources as it is. Do we let every single fetus go to term if it means the destruction of our race as a whole? Think about that carefully.

Now think of China as a smaller scale version of our planet down the road.

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