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Why China is fixated on the Moon

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#1    Waspie_Dwarf

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 12:58 AM

Why China is fixated on the Moon


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The Moon could be a "beautiful" source of minerals and energy, a top Chinese scientist has told the BBC.

Exotic materials including helium-3 and the potential for solar power could prove invaluable for humankind, he says.

The comments come from Prof Ouyang Ziyuan of the department of lunar and deep space exploration.

His first interview with the foreign media provides insights into China's usually secretive space programme.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 01:38 AM

They want to paint it red with a few stars on it.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 02:12 AM

moon cakes ain't never gonna taste the same again ~

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 02:58 AM

He mentions the solar panels, well this could be good news, the Chinese could follow and work with the Japanese on this one, after they have resolved their disputes on Earth over airspace.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 09:58 AM

I think  we need to wait and see if their rover actually makes its landing first..

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 10:29 AM

let's not get ahead of ourselves ... let's just focus on the lift off first ... then the orbiting the moon ... etc etc etc ... and etc etc till the successful return of the taikonauts ~

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 11:30 AM

View Postthird_eye, on 01 December 2013 - 10:29 AM, said:

and etc etc till the successful return of the taikonauts ~
What talkonauts? It's an unmanned mission.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 11:37 AM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 01 December 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

What talkonauts? It's an unmanned mission.

You are looking at it from the perspective of a singular mission ... we are looking at it as an endeavor in its entirety ... manned missions is part of the plans ...

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 11:45 AM

,,, just because they want to investigate if it can be eaten somehow.

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 06:23 PM

Blast off  :tu:

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Posted 01 December 2013 - 07:10 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 01 December 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

manned missions is part of the plans ...
Not officially.

China has expressed a desire to EVENTUALLY send a crew to the Moon, but it is not part of their current planning.

They do not have a booster with the capability to even send a Shenzhou on a mission to lunar orbit, never mind to land a crew there.

China's current plans are for a space station. The core module of that station is unlikely to be launched before 2018 (they don't have a launcher with enough lift for that yet either). Completion of the station is likely around 2022.

Realistically it is a decade before China will even decide IF it wants to send crew to the Moon.

By all means look to the bigger picture, but look to the real one, not a fictional one.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:29 AM

At least china is doing something ,NASA just stopped sending ships in space. We have to ride with the Russia's if we wanna go in to space


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 05:35 AM

They eventually want to land a man on the moon....  because it's never been done before.  :no:

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 06:35 AM

View Postcoolguy, on 02 December 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

At least china is doing something ,NASA just stopped sending ships in space. We have to ride with the Russia's if we wanna go in to space

Not true.

Whilst NASA currently need Russia for CREWED missions it still leads the world in unmanned exploration. NASA currently has 2 rovers on Mars and 2 Martian orbiters with another on the way. Two spacecraft orbiting the Moon. A spacecraft orbiting Mercury. A spacecraft orbiting Saturn. A spacecraft exploring the asteroid belts. A spacecraft on it's way to Jupiter and another on it's way to Pluto.

The USA is currently working on not one but FOUR new manned spacecraft.

Talk of NASA's demise is highly exaggerated.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:13 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 01 December 2013 - 07:10 PM, said:

Not officially.

China has expressed a desire to EVENTUALLY send a crew to the Moon, but it is not part of their current planning.

They do not have a booster with the capability to even send a Shenzhou on a mission to lunar orbit, never mind to land a crew there.

China's current plans are for a space station. The core module of that station is unlikely to be launched before 2018 (they don't have a launcher with enough lift for that yet either). Completion of the station is likely around 2022.

Realistically it is a decade before China will even decide IF it wants to send crew to the Moon.

Are you speaking on behalf of the China Space program or your opinion/believes of the capabilities of the China Space Program ?

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By all means look to the bigger picture, but look to the real one, not a fictional one.


Care to elaborate on your definition of 'real' and 'fiction' here ?

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' ... life and death carry on as they always have ~ and always will, only the dreamer is gone ~ behind the flow of imagination, beyond any effort to be still
dancing in the ebb and flow of attention, more present than the breath, I find the origins of my illusions, only the dreamer is gone ~ the dream never ends
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