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#1    sumeria

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:34 AM


            Atlantis was first mentioned in Plato's Critias, located in the west of the Strait of Gibraltar in the Atlantic Ocean. The rise of the mentioned civilization was around 10.000 years ago and it was really highly advanced one.


             In many places in the earth, there are many archeological findings which could not be explained according to the today's technology. For some scientists there were global disasters which ended human civilization many times. Atlantis according to many of them is one of these civilizations. It was not only located in the Atlantic Ocean as Plato stated but also with its colonies it was sperad in South and North America, Asia, Anatolia and India.They were the starting point of the Mayan and Aztec civilizations in Mexico and South America.


             "The Secret Doctrine" which was written by Helena Blavatsky mentioned the Atlanteans as Fourth Root race before the Aryan Race which was Fifth Rooth Race. This concept brings a new dimension on the written history. Can the civilization on the Earth be evolved not 4000 years but 900.000 year ago?



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:52 AM

View Postsumeria, on 02 December 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:


Atlantis was first mentioned in Plato's Critias, located in the west of the Strait of Gibraltar in the Atlantic Ocean. The rise of the mentioned civilization was around 10.000 years ago and it was really highly advanced one.

In many places in the earth, there are many archeological findings which could not be explained according to the today's technology. For some scientists there were global disasters which ended human civilization many times. Atlantis according to many of them is one of these civilizations. It was not only located in the Atlantic Ocean as Plato stated but also with its colonies it was sperad in South and North America, Asia, Anatolia and India.They were the starting point of the Mayan and Aztec civilizations in Mexico and South America.

"The Secret Doctrine" which was written by Helena Blavatsky mentioned the Atlanteans as Fourth Root race before the Aryan Race which was Fifth Rooth Race. This concept brings a new dimension on the written history. Can the civilization on the Earth be evolved not 4000 years but 900.000 year ago?


if so what would be the practical meaning of this is, if is 900.000 or 9.000.000.000 year old? that we are really dumb species not learning anything and still having 3 hours in traffic to get to our work?

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:55 AM

Blavatsky's theories do not bring any new dimension on written history at all.
How can fiction account for fact?
Blavatsky's musings are fiction of course - the hollow earth theories, the ascended masters thingies etc.
Theosophy doesn't have any footing at all.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 01:57 PM

There have always been global disasters some have almost ended life on this planet.  So I don't think it is far fetched to think a major disaster could have ended Atlantis providing it existed to begin with.


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Posted 02 December 2013 - 04:26 PM

View Postsumeria, on 02 December 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:


   Atlantis was first mentioned in Plato's Critias, located in the west of the Strait of Gibraltar in the Atlantic Ocean. The rise of the mentioned civilization was around 10.000 years ago and it was really highly advanced one.

In fact, it was first mentioned in Timaeus, not in Critias - that was the second mention.  And neither dialogue characterizes Atlantis as anything like a "really high advanced" culture.

View Postsumeria, on 02 December 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

   In many places in the earth, there are many archeological findings which could not be explained according to the today's technology.

No such findings exist anywhere on Earth.  Not a single thing has ever been found by Archaeology that cannot be explained according to the technology of the time period that thing comes from.  So this is just a lie.

Typical mindless twaddle if an ignorant poster going on about a couple of Plato's dialogues that he's never even laid eyes on.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 04:35 PM

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Blavatsky's theories do not bring any new dimension on written history at all.
How can fiction account for fact?
Blavatsky's musings are fiction of course - the hollow earth theories, the ascended masters thingies etc.
Theosophy doesn't have any footing at all.

and not very good fiction at that...

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Posted 03 December 2013 - 02:16 AM

View PostThe_Spartan, on 02 December 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

Theosophy doesn't have any footing at all.

Sure it does. Just amongst the gullible and feeble-minded, who tend (thankfully) to have little sway over society as a whole.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:51 AM

Mixing the Aryan legend with the Atlantis legend. That is a little new. (To me....)

What are the 1st, 2nd and 3rd Root races? I've never read up on this before.....

EDIT: Found info on "root races". It is not very flattering to the Africans, first Indians and first Australians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Root_race

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The first root race
The first root race was "ethereal", i.e. they were composed of etheric matter. They reproduced by dividing like an amoeba. Earth was still cooling at that time. The first mountain to arise out of the stormy primeval ocean was Mount Meru.

The second root race (Hyperborean)
The second root race lived in Hyperborea. The second root race was colored golden yellow. Hyperborea included what is now Northern Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Scandinavia, Northern Asia and Kamchatka. The climate was tropical because Earth had not yet developed an axial tilt. The esoteric name of their continent is Plaksha;[7] they called themselves the Kimpurshas. They reproduced by budding. The second root race has no present-day descendents.

The third root race (Lemurian)
The third root race, the Lemurian, was black and lived in Lemuria. The esoteric name of Lemuria is Shalmali.[7] Lemuria, according to Theosophists, existed in a large part of what is now the Indian Ocean including Australia and extending into the South Pacific Ocean; its last remnants are the Australian continent, the island of New Guinea, and the island of Madagascar.
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The first three subraces of the Lemurians reproduced by laying eggs, but the fourth subrace, beginning 16½ million years ago, began to reproduce like modern humans.[9] As Lemuria was slowly submerged due to volcanic eruptions, the Lemurians colonized the areas surrounding Lemuria, i.e. Africa, Southern India and the East Indies. The descendants of the Lemurian root race according to traditional Theosophy include the Capoid race, the Congoid race, the Dravidians, and the Australoid race.

The whole thing comes across as something that was Channeled. Which I am very skeptical of. Especially when ancient or future information is reported.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 10:52 AM

It was once believed that the City Of Troy was only a legend until Heinrich Schliemann discovered it in the 1860s. So who knows... Atlantis may just not be a legend. Or Atlantis could simply have been an age, an Era long forgotten by men, and until the moment of truth people will continue to try and make money off hoaxes.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 12:36 PM

View PostEuryleia, on 15 December 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

It was once believed that the City Of Troy was only a legend until Heinrich Schliemann discovered it in the 1860s. So who knows... Atlantis may just not be a legend. Or Atlantis could simply have been an age, an Era long forgotten by men, and until the moment of truth people will continue to try and make money off hoaxes.

We'll have to see if one of the experts here can help out, but I thought that the Troy discovered by Schliemann may not be the Troy from Homer.

http://www.unexplain...45#entry4716980

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You should understand that the site Schliemann investigated, though referred to as Troy (in various numerical stages,) has not been positively identified with the Troy of Greek myth.



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Posted 15 December 2013 - 01:10 PM

I second what Stereologist pointed out.

Is Schliemann's Troy the actual Troy??
Doubt it!

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 07:06 PM

View PostEuryleia, on 15 December 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

It was once believed that the City Of Troy was only a legend until Heinrich Schliemann discovered it in the 1860s. So who knows... Atlantis may just not be a legend. Or Atlantis could simply have been an age, an Era long forgotten by men, and until the moment of truth people will continue to try and make money off hoaxes.
Calvert discovered the site. Schliemann had the money to explore it.

There is a very long and extremely rich record of the Troy myth running throughout the Greek culture over time.  This myth is depicted in various works of art and many plays and literature. In other words, there are thousands of references to Troy extending throughout the Greek tradition.

So, exactly how many references to anything like the Atlantean story can you find in Greek tradition?

Not a one.

You have made a false analogy.  There is no "legend" or "myth" of Atlantis.

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Edited by Harte, 15 December 2013 - 07:07 PM.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 12:07 AM

View PostHarte, on 15 December 2013 - 07:06 PM, said:

There is no "legend" or "myth" of Atlantis.

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Then explain Aquaman.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 12:25 AM

I think the true story was of Thera, but some how the writers transferred the tale to the west. ;)


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 12:40 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 02 December 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:



and not very good fiction at that...
I dunno, six foot tall hermaphrodites could make for a good fiction of a certain type.



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