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Cellphone data spying: It's not just the NSA


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#1    joc

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 02:54 AM

The National Security Agency isn't the only government entity secretly collecting data from people's cellphones. Local police are increasingly scooping it up, too.
Armed with new technologies, including mobile devices that tap into cellphone data in real time, dozens of local and state police agencies are capturing information about thousands of cellphone users at a time, whether they are targets of an investigation or not, according to public records obtained by USA TODAY and Gannett newspapers and TV stations.

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So, what do you all think about that?  Patriot Act...on steroids?

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 03:43 AM

We develop technology, laws, training and equipment to control "Terrorism" overseas and people are honestly surprised that it we bring it back home to control our own populace? Remember our police officers take an oath to serve the state (not the constitution) and are charged with keeping the peace. (I.E. keeping the populace under control)
Why wouldn't they use stuff like this?


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 03:49 AM

Or this:
http://www.washingto...0011803982.html

We had warnings of the misuse of the Patriot Act, and now the NDAA.

Who will watch the watchers?

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 03:56 AM

View Postregeneratia, on 09 December 2013 - 03:49 AM, said:

Or this:
http://www.washingto...0011803982.html

We had warnings of the misuse of the Patriot Act, and now the NDAA.

Who will watch the watchers?

No one will. But they will make us think they are watching themselves.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:11 AM

View Postandy4, on 09 December 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

No one will. But they will make us think they are watching themselves.

WE THE PEOPLE are watching the watchers. And we won't stand for government misbehavior and felonies.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:22 AM

View Postregeneratia, on 09 December 2013 - 04:11 AM, said:

WE THE PEOPLE are watching the watchers. And we won't stand for government misbehavior and felonies.
Strikes me as naive but nice.


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:26 AM

View PostFrank Merton, on 09 December 2013 - 04:22 AM, said:

Strikes me as naive but nice.

It is now more available than ever before.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:12 AM

View Postjoc, on 09 December 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:

The National Security Agency isn't the only government entity secretly collecting data from people's cellphones. Local police are increasingly scooping it up, too.
Armed with new technologies, including mobile devices that tap into cellphone data in real time, dozens of local and state police agencies are capturing information about thousands of cellphone users at a time, whether they are targets of an investigation or not, according to public records obtained by USA TODAY and Gannett newspapers and TV stations.

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So, what do you all think about that?  Patriot Act...on steroids?
It was an obvious predictable result of the Patriot Act.  

Thanks partisans, we appreciate you giving Osama bin Laden the Win by destroying America's right to privacy.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 06:28 AM

If it helps to keep America safe from foreign or domestic acts of violence, I guess I'm OK with a little loss of "freedom"
But that's just my opinion.


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 12:21 PM

View Postpallidin, on 09 December 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

If it helps to keep America safe from foreign or domestic acts of violence, I guess I'm OK with a little loss of "freedom"
But that's just my opinion.
With all due respect pallidin..that is exactly the attitude that got us to this point via the Patriot Act.  Has it occurred to you that discussions of political natures could fall into the realm of 'terroristic talk'?  Where does one draw the line then...is speech free or is it not?  If it is free...do we not have the right for that speech to be private?  And when the loss of a little freedom becomes much greater, what then?  What happens when the tyrannical arms of the government reach far enough that you say that's it...something must be done?  What will be done?  You will be arrested for terroist activities plotting the overthrow of the government.
Well...it's too late pallididn.  You cannot put that genie back in the box.  They are listening to you pallidin...listening to YOU!  Big Brother is watching and listening to YOU!  Ah, but you have freedom so that is okay.  It is okay pallidin...as long as you love Big Brother...you do love Big Brother don't you pallidin?  After all it is BB that is protecting you by taking your freedoms?  Do you understand now pallidin...that Freedom is Slavery?

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:27 PM

View Postpallidin, on 09 December 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

If it helps to keep America safe from foreign or domestic acts of violence, I guess I'm OK with a little loss of "freedom"
But that's just my opinion.

Don't feel like the Lone Ranger!  Many americans are good subjects like yourself, buying into the nonsense of the War On Terror, and believing that the government would not deceive you and would not usurp power.

As you demonstrate, Liberty dies to thunderous applause.


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 01:36 PM

To quote Ben Franklin:

"Those who would sacrifice Freedom for Security, deserve neither"...


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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:11 PM

View Postpallidin, on 09 December 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

If it helps to keep America safe from foreign or domestic acts of violence, I guess I'm OK with a little loss of "freedom"
But that's just my opinion.

Hey just keep your head down, keep buying and keep paying taxes. Otherwise, the terrorists win!

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:41 PM

in nyc every 5-6 blocks there are antenas installed on traffic lights poles, that read your ezpass as you pass. they track your movment at any moment.  and they don't deny it.

those antennas also may be tracking your cell phone as well. they posibly have map of your movement pattern.

so you know they track you, you know where and how. if one really wants to he can use that to his advantage.

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Posted 09 December 2013 - 04:50 PM

This isn't a recent trend, however.  We've always had boogeymen that could be used to further laws stripping our freedom.  The Nazis, socialism, communism, The war on drugs, and now the war on terror.   The thing stripping our freedom is our fear.





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