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#1    TaridD

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Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:17 PM

Hello,

It is a fact that most of us own at least a desktop, a laptop, a tablet, a smartphone, ect and maybe even more than one of these.

Cloud computing is getting ever more popular for it's capabaility to stock all your files online therefore allowing a covenient use of them in various devices or to help an old computer getting more life.

Are you in favor of using a cloud system such as JoliDrive, BoX, Google Drive, SkyDrive ect ect.?

Is this the future of how operating systems will be in computers?

Let,s talk about it.

Edited by Taridb, 22 December 2013 - 09:18 PM.


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 09:31 PM

I am NOT in favor of it at all. These "cloud" servers are owned and run by someone else and anything you put in there can easily be claimed as their property. Nothing will be yours and is subject to seemingly greater chances of hacking and so forth.

It might have its uses but I prefer having MY stuff on MY hard drive to retrieve when I want without basically paying for the permission to use MY files. Nuh-uh...not gonna go for that at all. It's bad enough if you have to have an activation code to use a operating system you have purchased but to pay a fee to store files on a remote server you have absolutely NO control over and still lose it at a moments notice AND your stuff WILL be snooped on regardless of what Google or whoever says.

I just do not trust it..it is too easy for the government, or shall I say, it will be easier for them to snoop, confiscate and outright steal anything there.

I'll stick to using the "old" way of using my own computer.


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:21 PM

The safer and more reliable solution is that you put a NAS server in your cellar connected to your home network. Any old PC you have in your attic could work for that and the software is available as open source.

The only cloud like application I use is dropbox, and that only to exchange very large files with others.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:02 AM

Ruy-> Actually, Google offer 15G of space for free, Micrososft 8 GiG, Box 10G , Drop box 2G. So no you do have to pay fee to use a cloud services. Unless you have a lot of files to stock than you can pay for more. But you can use more than one of this service at once and nothing force you to use your real name nor a genuine email adress. So, if you're uneasy like me with your personal identity and privacy you can choose to be quite anonymous. As for Intelligent agencies, who care what kind of music I listen and video I watch? Pictures can be of anyone, without a name on it.

I've a balanced approach with regard to cloud computing. I will not give up my desktop operating system but the cloud offer interesting ideas and alternatives.

Using a cloud to stock files can be useful as long as you have a backup and do not use it for the purpose of hiding criminal activities. I've heard a tale of someone putting all his stuff: bills, documents, student works, ect on a cloud server only to have his account removed for alleged infringement. He claim he did nothing wrong and as a result lost all his stuffs.

A simple back up of a USB flash drive of an external hard drive will have save him this grievous total lost. You've to think what would happen if this service shut it's door? So, yes you can free you hard drive of your files if you feel the need to and are at easy with it but have a back up somewhere safe at home.


questionmark-> Well, a better way is to simply use a lightweight distro of Linux such as Puppy or DamnSmallLinux on a old computer instead of remaining on XP, no longer supported in April or try Windows 7. A nice side of cloud computing is that you do not need office software, email client and all kind of things that may swollen you harddrive. You can just as easily use Google doc or Microsoft web app and running things online which will make an old computer more reliable.

Edited by Taridb, 23 December 2013 - 02:10 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2014 - 03:55 AM

View PostRyu, on 22 December 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

I am NOT in favor of it at all. These "cloud" servers are owned and run by someone else and anything you put in there can easily be claimed as their property. Nothing will be yours and is subject to seemingly greater chances of hacking and so forth.

It might have its uses but I prefer having MY stuff on MY hard drive to retrieve when I want without basically paying for the permission to use MY files. Nuh-uh...not gonna go for that at all. It's bad enough if you have to have an activation code to use a operating system you have purchased but to pay a fee to store files on a remote server you have absolutely NO control over and still lose it at a moments notice AND your stuff WILL be snooped on regardless of what Google or whoever says.

I just do not trust it..it is too easy for the government, or shall I say, it will be easier for them to snoop, confiscate and outright steal anything there.

I'll stick to using the "old" way of using my own computer.

Thats why you keep a Copy on your Computer and then have Backups to Backups on multiple different Servers. That way if one of those companies ****s with your files claiming it as there property etc. ,then you can still have your files. Or if your like me after a certain amount of time has passed and you haven't even opened the document in a month or so than you should store it in a cloud server for future reference. I am all for Cloud Service. You just got to have backups to backups. Especially since i clean out my computer of all of its **** every 2 or so months.

Edited by stevemagegod, 02 January 2014 - 03:56 AM.


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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:05 PM

I've always been concerned about what happens when the cloud's servers are infected with a virus. Or if the hardware just goes bad. You're SOL if that happens, so I'd rather keep important files on my hard drive.

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 02:24 PM

View PostChild of Bast, on 02 January 2014 - 02:05 PM, said:

I've always been concerned about what happens when the cloud's servers are infected with a virus. Or if the hardware just goes bad. You're SOL if that happens, so I'd rather keep important files on my hard drive.

Generally the back-up quality of professional server is good enough to avoid those problems. My problem is more how confidential my work remains, and there I don't trust them.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:08 PM

Cloud computing does have its place as I use Dropbox to work on documents via my phone and vice versa, but I wont be using it anytime soon to replace storing all my files on my own hard drive.

There are too many things that can go wrong with cloud computing, for example if their servers go down then you lose access to your files or there is always the chance something may happen that results in all your files being lost.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:21 PM

Or they can suddenly go out of business or start charging fees to recover your info or in some other way hold your data hostage.


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

Let's not forget the minimum resources set aside for the OS attached softwares to keep the cloud fluffy and not too cloudy ~

I don't trust the running of those servers ~ some glitch somewhere or some talented hacker could just set a chain reaction of codes that makes your 'private' designated stuff turned 'public share' and you're just caught with your private bits flapping out there in the interwebz

For the mobiles or pads its okay ... but for my PC ... I'll keep the cloud out of my business with a sunny and clear skies forecast ~ with blueray and external HDDs - backups are not problematic anymore ... no matter how much stuff you hoard up in a year or two ...

using an old PC is a great idea but the downside is you just have another machine to watch over that does next to nothing but just transactions, practically a dead weight peripheral ... unless you really has the kind of puter related activity per day its just more pain in the neck for next to no gains, you still need to watch over the dedicated server to make sure its still dedicating properly you know ...

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 03:42 AM

I'm NOT in favor of it. I'm not in favor of the way that technology is going or how it's effecting people. People are becoming more and more like robots and this crap is just non-human.

Has anyone ever seen the movie Wall-E? I seriously think that people are going to end up like the humans in that movie, with the way that things are going, with people's face constantly glued to any type of screen.. lol

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:02 AM

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Posted 06 January 2014 - 08:45 AM

I actually find cloud computing quite useful whenever I log in to someone's Xbox 360, try to upload a video on my Xbox One's Game DVR, and play a game on Steam. The fact that I don't need to bring my console nor memory files is a huge benefit for me. I do agree that personal information/privacy is something to look back to. For security and privacy purposes, I highly suggest not to add anything personal/important information on the Internet. The Internet is infected with hackers and you'll never know when they'll pull the trigger on you.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:01 AM

It is pretty easy to say personal information should not be put on the cloud, but we do the equivalent all the time when we buy something on-line, do a banking or stock transaction, or even "like" something (let alone the things we do searches for).  Someone dedicating themselves to putting a dossier together about you can do it I think no matter how careful one is.  The only real defense is the immense amount of work such a thing now requires, but even this with data scanning software will get easier.  Just keep your head down and your eyes open.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 09:40 AM

Unless you use a pre-paid card, Merton, I agree with everything you say.

You made a good point right there.





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