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#1    F3SS

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:00 PM

I wasn't going to create this thread at first but after some reconsideration I think this is a photo worth seeing for perspective.

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SEN. MIKE LEE USES ONE SIMPLE PHOTO TO ARGUE THAT WE’VE BECOME A NATION OF REGULATIONS

Photo... http://www.theblaze....of-regulations/

But here’s the part where you really need to pay attention: “The small stack of papers on top of the display are the laws passed by elected members of Congress and signed into law by the president [emphasis added].”

Good grief. That's only from one year. Even scarier? Our tax code is more than ten thousand pages longer! And just who are these people we didn't hire to keep US in line?

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:02 PM

Here it is. I assumed it was a copywrited pic but I think Facebook is fair game. Click to enlarge. Mods, delete if I'm wrong.

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Posted 14 January 2014 - 10:34 PM

I also like this meme

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" I imagine that the intellegent people are the ones so intellegent that they dont even need or want to look "intellegent" anymore".
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Posted 15 January 2014 - 02:49 PM

Without a government who would regulate us and tax us to death?   ;)


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:37 PM

Sometimes I wonder if these guys come up with this much paperwork just so it looks like they are actually doing something. In most of the jobs I've held we called this sort of thing "makework", as in make it look like you are actually working.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 03:56 PM

i'm pretty sure if you ask those that voted on that mountain of paper, what is in there exacly, they will not have a clue

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 05:48 PM

Regulation into a state of paralysis....nothing can move or get done for days, weeks or months because it might violate some dusty regulation that someone forgot even existed and is only pulled out for vengeance or corruption.

You have freedom of speech and can express your thoughts as long as your thoughts conform to everyone else's.

You have free markets as long as you pay for all your licensing and regulation, sales and use taxes.

You are free to publicly assemble as long as you file the paperwork and use an area pre-slected for you.

You are free to choose your religion as long as it is one of the big three or no religion at all.

You can have freedom of press as long as the editor approves what you have to say and it doesn't chafe our advertisers.


Yeah...what a "free" country we have...

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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."  Thomas Jefferson

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 07:52 PM

View Postaztek, on 15 January 2014 - 03:56 PM, said:

i'm pretty sure if you ask those that voted on that mountain of paper, what is in there exacly, they will not have a clue

True but they will also say it's necessary. They don't have to know what it is as long as big brother is on control of their lives. The hard line lefties here and elsewhere will be quick to spaz when we complain about this stuff. I might say goodness is this really necessary and they'll predictably scream I want no rules and anarchy and why don't we just go back to robber Barron days. So extreme. Nonsense though. All I want is not 80,00 pages of invisible lines to wrongfully cross and for it to be done by those we elect. Not only do we not need this but nobody knows what's in that stack or who wrote it. Like Jerimiah said, most of it is just incase somebody on the hill needs a gotcha moment.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:31 PM

View PostF3SS, on 15 January 2014 - 07:52 PM, said:

True but they will also say it's necessary. They don't have to know what it is as long as big brother is on control of their lives. The hard line lefties here and elsewhere will be quick to spaz when we complain about this stuff. I might say goodness is this really necessary and they'll predictably scream I want no rules and anarchy and why don't we just go back to robber Barron days. So extreme. Nonsense though. All I want is not 80,00 pages of invisible lines to wrongfully cross and for it to be done by those we elect. Not only do we not need this but nobody knows what's in that stack or who wrote it. Like Jerimiah said, most of it is just incase somebody on the hill needs a gotcha moment.


I have no idea what is so scary to some people, about having fewer regulations and less taxes. I guess it's the same type of fear that dogs have for loud noises and balloons.....

At any rate, regulations and excessive taxes on small business owners, is one of the reasons for the economic slump we're in. But, instead of lifting those burdens, the government just passes more regulations and keeps throwing money at the unemployed.


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The Obama administration failed to live up to its promise of fixing the economy. The Washington establishment continues to push economic policies that limit job opportunities. Of course, government doesn’t create jobs. But it has created the current environment which punishes entrepreneurs and discourages them from creating new jobs.

It’s time to try something new. The solution to fixing long-term unemployment is to get the government out of the way. Let entrepreneurs flourish. Jobs will open up if business owners can afford to hire in the first place.

Excessive taxes and regulations are denying people job opportunities. The United States has the highest corporate tax in the world at 35 percent. Entrepreneurs would surely love to spend their money focusing on growing their business and hiring new workers rather than handing it over to the government.

The Obama administration takes the cake for the largest number of costly regulations ever proposed. During Obama’s first term in office, regulatory burdens on Americans increased by nearly $70 billion. There were 25 “major” rules issued by the administration, costing a total of $23.5 billion in 2012.

A Gallup poll finds that 41 percent of small business owners have frozen hiring because of ObamaCare. The Dodd-Frank Wall Street “Reform” law ignores the root cause of the 2008 financial crisis, while imposing unnecessary obligations and rules on the financial services industry. The EPA has run amok with ridiculous standards that hurt the energy industry and consumers.

Extending long-term unemployment benefits won’t fix anything. We will be in the exact same rut a couple months from now when the benefits run out again. The real solution is to grow the number of job opportunities by unleashing entrepreneurs from hampering regulations and taxes.

Let’s get people back to work.

Link: http://townhall.com/...n1777183/page/2


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:46 PM

Wow, just for the hell of it... $70 billion equals 1,400,000 $50k per year salaries. Good god.
Edit for impact: or 2,333,333 $30k per year jobs!

Edited by F3SS, 15 January 2014 - 09:48 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 09:52 PM

No one wants the big mega corporations going back to the days of 12 hour days and poverty wages.  No wants wants them returning to the days of dumping toxins in the neighborhood playgrounds.  But when you propose lifting unbearable regulations that stifle growth and prosperity, that is what the extremists come back with.

Instead of creating legislation that empowers individual inspectors to use common sense in case by case scenarios...they create these revenue devouring organizations that use one giant paint brush to address everything and everyone.  Perhaps if they hired smart people instead of meeting employment "quotas"...we could have some freedom and growth...imagine that.

I always like to use the example of a guy and a hot dog stand...I see no reason a person should not be allowed to get a cheap cart, a cheap grill and sell cheap hot dogs along the side of the road.  BUT...today he has to get zoning approval, submit to "pre" health department inspections, pay for permits, a license and liability insurance...the poor b@stard is broke before he can even sell his first weiner.  As long as the guy isn't selling ground up people and isn't poisoning anyone...LEAVE HIM ALONE!  If he has a good clean stand that sells a tasty dog...people will come in droves...if he sells a crappy product from a suspect looking stand...he won't last very long.

Oh well...

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Edited by Jeremiah65, 15 January 2014 - 09:53 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:01 PM

A little off topic but not completely...

The Fed has been pumping something like 60 billion a month into the banks and markets for several years and labeled it "Quantitative easing"...supposedly to stimulate the economy.  I did some math on this one day...

This basically equates to 170 bucks a month to every single person in the USA.

I am yet to see anyone prosper from this QE Infinity except the bankers and the brokers.  The Fed should have just sent out checks to each household based on the number of occupants and let them spend it into the economy...I guarnatee it would have stimulated things a LOT more...and the bottom line is..."WE the people" are inevitably going to be picking up the tab for all this money anyway...

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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:51 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 15 January 2014 - 09:52 PM, said:

No one wants the big mega corporations going back to the days of 12 hour days and poverty wages.  No wants wants them returning to the days of dumping toxins in the neighborhood playgrounds.  But when you propose lifting unbearable regulations that stifle growth and prosperity, that is what the extremists come back with.

Instead of creating legislation that empowers individual inspectors to use common sense in case by case scenarios...they create these revenue devouring organizations that use one giant paint brush to address everything and everyone.  Perhaps if they hired smart people instead of meeting employment "quotas"...we could have some freedom and growth...imagine that.

I always like to use the example of a guy and a hot dog stand...I see no reason a person should not be allowed to get a cheap cart, a cheap grill and sell cheap hot dogs along the side of the road.  BUT...today he has to get zoning approval, submit to "pre" health department inspections, pay for permits, a license and liability insurance...the poor b@stard is broke before he can even sell his first weiner.  As long as the guy isn't selling ground up people and isn't poisoning anyone...LEAVE HIM ALONE!  If he has a good clean stand that sells a tasty dog...people will come in droves...if he sells a crappy product from a suspect looking stand...he won't last long.


People would be surprised what a little ingenuity and hard work can do... Without a bunch of government red tape and excessive taxes.

View PostJeremiah65, on 15 January 2014 - 10:01 PM, said:

A little off topic but not completely...

The Fed has been pumping something like 60 billion a month into the banks and markets for several years and labeled it "Quantitative easing"...supposedly to stimulate the economy.  I did some math on this one day...

This basically equates to 170 bucks a month to every single person in the USA.

I am yet to see anyone prosper from this QE Infinity except the bankers and the brokers.  The Fed should have just sent out checks to each household based on the number of occupants and let them spend it into the economy...I guarnatee it would have stimulated things a LOT more...and the bottom line is..."WE the people" are inevitably going to be picking up the tab for all this money anyway...

You know the Federal Reserve is the exact reason our Founding Fathers were against a central bank in the US. Why one of them, didn't punch Alexander Hamilton in the face, for suggesting and setting one up, I'll never know. But, anyways, if people realized what a Ponzi scheme it is, they would be worried. Janet Yellen being confirmed as the head, just cemented my fears even more. People need to be prepared for when the dollar tanks. It's going to get very bad. I just don't think there's any way out, of the dollar tanking. And auditing the Fed, while a step in the right direction, isn't going to do ****.

Edited by Kowalski, 15 January 2014 - 10:55 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2014 - 10:57 PM

I always said the same thing about the $800B stimulus. They should've just released that money back to US. It would've been a couple thousand dollars for every single living U.S. Citizen. But no, they had to gamble with it and deliver kickbacks.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 07:49 PM

Eh, it's not just the government.  I just had to go through my company handbook and initial on 110 rules and regulations for 2014.  It seems like every time someone does something stupid or overly adventurous, some guy in in office has to sit down and make a rule forbidding it.





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