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Inactive sun could herald new mini-Ice Age


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 12:30 PM

Scientists remain perplexed by the inexplicable and severe lack of activity being exhibited by the sun.

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The sun\'s activity has dropped to such an extent that there are fears that it could trigger a miniature Ice Age similar to the one that occurred during the 17th century when the sun entered an extremely quiet phase that became known as the Maunder Minimum.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:16 PM

So, what would happen if the world cut its carbon emissions in half tomorrow?

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:18 PM

It's not quite as severe as the thread title suggests. If we are indeed approaching a "Maunder Minimum", then it will have quite severe consequences to the climate of Europe for a while - as that climate is very sensitive to oscillations in the jet stream as the article explains.

I have heard no claims that a solar minimum equivalent to what occurred in the 17th century would have a comparable effect over the rest of the planet, however.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:20 PM

If it could cool down Australia a little, greatly appreciated


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 01:25 PM

We really can't win, can we. Everyone's all panicking about global Warming, and then next thing you know we're having a new ice Age. Maybe we ought to get a stock of greenhouse Gases in, just in case.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:01 PM

What we really need is to set up a worldwide HVAC system. Only, who would get to control the thermostat?

A worldwide committee of wives would be my guess.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 02:58 PM

If we are going to see an extended period of low solar activity, it will be a hugely lucky break for us.  The sun will be like the cavalry coming over the hill to save us from the carbon dioxide etc. that we are warming the planet with.

Of course it may not happen, and we should not count on it happening, and, if it does happen, we have no way of knowing how long the break will last or how effective it will be in helping us from our activity.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 04:01 PM

Sometimes I'm amazed at how clueless our scientists are. It's quiet like we've never seen it and they insist it should be most active right now. Based on their theories and models, that is. Maybe time to go back to the drawing board?


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 07:41 PM

Actually, the idea that it should be most active right now is based entirely on observation, and theories attempt to explain these observations.

The Sun goes through fairly regular 11 year cycles.  Observation of the Sun has been ongoing for a good many years.

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 08:29 PM

if there was a cooling in Europe due to low activity from the sun, how long would it last? how long was the miniature one in the 17th century?


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 08:51 PM

Why just Europe... our Earth rotates.


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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:29 PM

View Postpallidin, on 19 January 2014 - 08:51 PM, said:

Why just Europe... our Earth rotates.

  I think they were saying  parts of Europe might get chillier because of fluctuations in the Jet Stream bringing down colder air?   That got my attention.. because we are at roughly the same latitude as London ( a bit further south)  ... and we are always getting periods where we are north of the Polar Jet  and therefore stay COLD .

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Posted 19 January 2014 - 10:59 PM

These "Scientists" jump on any band wagon, what are they worried about just because the Sun is having a little rest, it rises in the East and sets in the West, the time to start worrying is when it stops doing this,and 1 side of our planet always faces the sun.

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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:27 AM

Science 1970s - global cooling/mini ice-age
               1990s - global warming/rising sea levels
               2000s - global climate change (coverers every contingency)
               2010s - global cooling/mini ice-age

Well, that certainly clears that up and while I may being a bit a bit sarcastic about all this, it really does make one wonder how predictable long term climate forecasting really is. Suddenly the "sleepy" sun, and not man and his activities, becomes the major player in climate. That would certainly seem more logical to me as it's our planet's main energy source. We have instruments on Mars currently, let's see if Martian temperatures are also on the decline.


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Posted 20 January 2014 - 12:54 AM

View Postpallidin, on 19 January 2014 - 08:51 PM, said:

Why just Europe... our Earth rotates.
Maybe because it was a BBC report?

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