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#1    Dumpnuts

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:19 PM

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Palisade mom of two toddlers who died guilty on child abuse charge

GRAND JUNCTION — A 12-person jury found Heather Jensen guilty of child abuse that led to the hyperthermia deaths of her two young sons in 2012, but the same jury found her not guilty of criminally negligent homicide.

The split verdict came after a day and a half of deliberations following an emotional four days of testimony about the events surrounding the deaths of William Jensen, 2, and Tyler Jensen, 4. The boys died of overheating while strapped and locked in their mother's SUV on a cold evening in late November...

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:27 PM

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

I hope she gets the full 32 years and i hope she gets beaten to death in prison, there i said it davros although i do have more to add but probably shouldn't

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

I remember reading about this when it happened.

This is what happens when we allow anybody to have babies and keep them.

Not everyone is fit mentally to be a parent.  And it's only the babies that suffer for it.

And we have the nerve to think of ourselves as 'evolved'.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 03:53 PM

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I can understand your feelings and have felt the same... but the only alternative is to have some government agency decide who can have kids and who can't...  Do you really
want ANY government to make that decision?...


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:14 PM

I think the cause of the deaths is tragically ironic because she left the heater on out of concern for their well-being.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 04:44 PM

It is just tragic when a parent puts their ridiculous needs above the safety and welfare of their own children.

I'm not saying that this woman shouldn't be punished, but I think she had already had the ultimate punishment in this case.  She'll have to live with the guilt of doing this to those poor little fellows for the rest of her life.


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 05:17 PM

View Postsupervike, on 01 February 2014 - 04:44 PM, said:

It is just tragic when a parent puts their ridiculous needs above the safety and welfare of their own children.

I'm not saying that this woman shouldn't be punished, but I think she had already had the ultimate punishment in this case.  She'll have to live with the guilt of doing this to those poor little fellows for the rest of her life.
I have an itching suspicion that this woman would not feel the same level of guilt that a normal individual would. I don't think this is a simple case of "poor judgment". This is a woman that chose to take her children along on a sexual rendezvous in a nearby car. That act alone speaks volumes of the individual.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 05:21 PM

View PostDumpsterJesus, on 01 February 2014 - 05:17 PM, said:

I have an itching suspicion that this woman would not feel the same level of guilt that a normal individual would. I don't think this is a simple case of "poor judgment". This is a woman that chose to take her children along on a sexual rendezvous in a nearby car. That act alone speaks volumes of the individual.

not only that but to go smoke weed too, how pathetic is that? your kids are dead because you wanted to get baked and have sex.

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 06:25 PM

View PostTaun, on 01 February 2014 - 03:53 PM, said:

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I can understand your feelings and have felt the same... but the only alternative is to have some government agency decide who can have kids and who can't...  Do you really
want ANY government to make that decision?...

Yeah, I hear you.  

But ya gotta have a license for everything else.....(marriage, car, fishing, hunting, jobs, etc.)


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 07:15 PM

View PostAwake2Chaos, on 01 February 2014 - 03:37 PM, said:

I remember reading about this when it happened.

This is what happens when we allow anybody to have babies and keep them.

Not everyone is fit mentally to be a parent.  And it's only the babies that suffer for it.

And we have the nerve to think of ourselves as 'evolved'.

And who is it that gets to decide who can have a baby and who cannot?


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 07:37 PM

View PostBabe Ruth, on 01 February 2014 - 07:15 PM, said:

And who is it that gets to decide who can have a baby and who cannot?

I don't know, you have any ideas?


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Posted 01 February 2014 - 07:58 PM

Me. I will decide.

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 02:55 AM

View PostAwake2Chaos, on 01 February 2014 - 07:37 PM, said:

I don't know, you have any ideas?

You have echoed my actual thoughts.Hitler was demonized rightfully so for an otherwise good idea in Eugenics.People with genetic, or mental defects are cheered on to pass on their genes, if one ever watched shows like "Oprah."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Wether one realizes it or not we are programmed to reproduce, but the same distaste for incestual reproduction is not present for genetic overall unqualities.

I may look like a monster now, but future societies will look at intelligence, and the genetic map as a whole for a more balanced, and healthy populace.

People do not want to look at themselves as animals, and think they are part of a perfect creation.

Edited by davros of skaro, 02 February 2014 - 02:56 AM.

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Posted 02 February 2014 - 03:10 AM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 02 February 2014 - 02:55 AM, said:

You have echoed my actual thoughts.Hitler was demonized rightfully so for an otherwise good idea in Eugenics.People with genetic, or mental defects are cheered on to pass on their genes, if one ever watched shows like "Oprah."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Wether one realizes it or not we are programmed to reproduce, but the same distaste for incestual reproduction is not present for genetic overall unqualities.

I may look like a monster now, but future societies will look at intelligence, and the genetic map as a whole for a more balanced, and healthy populace.

People do not want to look at themselves as animals, and think they are part of a perfect creation.

I see it all the time in my job; people have babies that they don't really want, or they can't afford, then they ignore or abuse the kids (I saw one child perish from heat stroke because mom couldn't be pulled away from her pool party)...and DCS is so overrun with complaints that they can't keep up with them.

So......a lot of kids live in sub-standard conditions, with parents who don't want them or hurt them, and it's okay, because it's their parent's human right to procreate.

I would of gladly submitted to a psychological evaluation and a home visit before I brought my children home.  (I know not all people feel that way, before you crucify me for having my opinion)

There is no easy answer.  I don't have an answer.  All I know is what I have seen, and I think we can do better.





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