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#1    seeder

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 04:09 PM

Ok this is a  bit odd, a guy at a fracking protests is pushed over, then arrested for drink driving, you really need to read the story which leads to the video. He has a few other clips of protests

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Published on Jan 31, 2014

Lawful Observer is assaulted by 9986 and then his colleage lies in order to carry out unlawful arrest of Lawful observer whilst filming police assaults at protest against Fracking on Barton Moss Road, Irlam, Salford on 14/1/14. After the camera was turned off, 08076 David Kehoe breaks camera strap in order to seize camera from lawful observer. Because of advanced storage technology, the video data was stored by the device to be recovered when the camera was eventually returned on 31st January 2014. Uniformed hired thug for IGAS David Kehoe blatantly lies about what is said, even though there is a camera pointed at him recording his lies.


Transcript of court case 28/1/14:

Usher - "can you stand at the end"
Freeman - "I claim common law jurisdiction, I do not consent and I wave the
benefits"
Magistrate - "Can you repeat that"
Freeman - "I claim common law jurisdiction, I do not consent and I wave the
benefits"
Magistrate (to other two magistrates) - "I don't think we have had that before"
Clerk - "Are you Steven Spy?"
Freeman - "I am Steven of the family Spy"
Clerk - " Are you Steven Spy?"
Freeman - "I am Steven of the family Spy"
Clerk - "Where do you live?"
Freeman - "I live on the land"
Clerk - "Can you confirm your date of birth"
Freeman - "I believe that would be hearsay evidence, your honour"
Clerk - "If you honour is satisfied we have identified the defendant, we can
continue".
Prosecution - "The prosecution is not satisfied that there is sufficient
evidence to substantiate the charge, therefore we withdraw the case"
Clerk - " Do you understand that the prosecution is withdrawing its case"
Freeman - "No I do not understand, but I do comprehend"
Magistrate - "Whether you understand or comprehend, the prosecution is
withdrawing its case, so the case is dismissed and you are free to go"
Freeman - "Thank you, your honour".



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Posted 05 February 2014 - 06:11 PM

stupid hippie


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:17 PM

Despite the incredibly biased reporting, the officers did everything right, although I think he may have misheard tea as two the first time. If an officer suspects someone is drunk and has been seen driving, I'd rather they got them off the road than have them drive into me.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:28 PM

the unwashed are looking for trouble with the police, its clear in that video they want confrontation. the police tell them to move, anyone else would go okay, and move but they dont, they linger, and need telling time and time again, then when the police approach they start saying your assaulting me. you have to give the officer credit he knew what type of car the person was driving, even knowing where it was parked. i think it backfired on the lad with the camera. all he had to do was provide a specimen of breath and if he passed he'd be on his way. but no, he fought the law and the law won.

This fracking - its about time the police were allowed to remove these tax dodgers, bring in the hoses and hose them down. a check should be made on all those at the 'camp' to see whose claiming unemployment benefits, because their being at the camp is not complying with the rules on claiming such benefit. namely actively seeking work, and prepared for work. camped in a tent at the side of the road, looking like swampy. stinking to high heaven is not helping their employment possibilities. there is more than one way to skin a cat.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:36 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 06 February 2014 - 07:28 PM, said:

the unwashed are looking for trouble with the police, its clear in that video they want confrontation. the police tell them to move, anyone else would go okay, and move but they dont, they linger, and need telling time and time again, then when the police approach they start saying your assaulting me.

That and the fact that he was apparently pushed over by the officer waving a hand. Dangerous stuff that hand waving...

I don't agree with fracking myself but if the police ask you to move, just damn well do it. Not that hard.

Edited by Setton, 06 February 2014 - 08:37 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 08:58 PM

View PostSetton, on 06 February 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

That and the fact that he was apparently pushed over by the officer waving a hand. Dangerous stuff that hand waving...

I don't agree with fracking myself but if the police ask you to move, just damn well do it. Not that hard.

i was skeptical about fracking but having looked into the process i find myself agreeing with the need for fracking, the benefits outweigh the negatives. its done wonders in the US, so much so the US is damn close in being self sufficient. i look at Australia who seem to be doing quiet well out of it. without all the horror stories. it seems the internet has created a lot of misinformation for which people against fracking use as evidence. sometime you just have to trust the experts and government. i cannot see the government allowing fracking to go ahead if the evidence against it was so strong. as to cause earthquakes, contamination of the water table/supplies etc.. its seems all the western nations are exploring fracking. its a case of getting on the bus or simply miss it.

edit to add, The UK only needs to extract 10% of its potential fracking estimates which would see us 80% sufficient for the next 30 years. deals with the USA and Canada will see us importing gas from these countries in the future. stopping our reliance on middle eastern and Russian gas, securing our energy future. by this time imagine how more advanced renewable technology will have become. i think its necessary. unless we want to fight more wars in the middle east.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:03 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 06 February 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

i was skeptical about fracking but having looked into the process i find myself agreeing with the need for fracking, the benefits outweigh the negatives. its done wonders in the US, so much so the US is damn close in being self sufficient. i look at Australia who seem to be doing quiet well out of it. without all the horror stories. it seems the internet has created a lot of misinformation for which people against fracking use as evidence. sometime you just have to trust the experts and government. i cannot see the government allowing fracking to go ahead if the evidence against it was so strong. as to cause earthquakes, contamination of the water table/supplies etc.. its seems all the western nations are exploring fracking. its a case of getting on the bus or simply miss it.

Call me a cynic but I'd say it's more the profits outweighing the negatives. Yes, it's been successful in the US and Australia but the geology there is very different and those countries are much more sparsely populated. But this is getting off topic :)

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:11 PM

I don't normally side against the police but two points had me concerned.

- I officer claimed the guy said he had two drinks.  The guy clearly stated he had tea and repeatedly advised he had tea.  There is no question that is what the guy said or that the officer understood it the first time - yet he made the claim the guy admitted to drinking to a colleague to progress the issue.

- Another officer claimed he had been seen driving - I don't see where that claim that he had been seen driving was made.  I head the first officer say he "believed" he had arrived in the car that morning but not that he had seen him driving.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:38 PM

View PostSetton, on 06 February 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

That and the fact that he was apparently pushed over by the officer waving a hand. Dangerous stuff that hand waving...
Bloke's probably a treegan so the breeze created by that hand wave knocked him for a six, not know for their protean muscle mass are treegans.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:09 AM

View Poststevewinn, on 06 February 2014 - 08:58 PM, said:

i was skeptical about fracking but having looked into the process i find myself agreeing with the need for fracking, the benefits outweigh the negatives. its done wonders in the US, so much so the US is damn close in being self sufficient.

And being able to light your water on fire is an acceptable price to pay for oil self sufficiency?  Not that it's really what I would call self sufficient as these corporations ruining the land are also gouging you for your money so they make record profits year after year.

In my opinion ruining the ground water tables to extract oil and probably making this land unusable in the future is poor planning at best and criminal at worst.  And because this man is standing up for his beliefs and principals he is now an unemployed lay about by your judgement.  God help the future people that have to live on the earth you're in favor of creating.


Edited by OverSword, 07 February 2014 - 12:27 AM.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 02:00 PM

View PostOverSword, on 07 February 2014 - 12:09 AM, said:

And being able to light your water on fire is an acceptable price to pay for oil self sufficiency?  Not that it's really what I would call self sufficient as these corporations ruining the land are also gouging you for your money so they make record profits year after year.

In my opinion ruining the ground water tables to extract oil and probably making this land unusable in the future is poor planning at best and criminal at worst.  And because this man is standing up for his beliefs and principals he is now an unemployed lay about by your judgement.  God help the future people that have to live on the earth you're in favor of creating.

That Video how true is it? i mean, how does that apply to the United Kingdom, how does fracking contaminate drinking water supply for instance, how does it enter the water treatment plants, because as you will know the vast majority of water in the UK comes from reservoirs which is then pumped via enclosed pipes to treatment plants were the water is treated and continually monitored before being piped yet again enclosed in sealed pipes around the system into our homes. rest assured you will not witness any thing like what is contained in that video.

its about time people stopped believing rubbish because it appears on the internet or youtube clips. here in the UK exploration of onshore fracking dates back to the 1960's the only reason it wasn't followed through on an industrial scale was because it wasn't cost effective, and was cheaper to drill, extract from offshore North Sea. now we have reached a period in time were national resources are dwindling see North Sea resources and with energy costs rising, as each year passes we are importing more and more gas which is less secure, and influenced by market forces beyond our control, all amount to putting our economy, services and manufacturing and global competitiveness at risk.

according to the British government 2.3 million fracking sites around the world are currently in operation. why are we not seeing disaster after disaster on the news? instead we see the USA economy growing helped by fracking which is reducing energy costs. do not underestimate the impact - it will see the USA alone go from leading importer to a NET exporter in as little as five years. this has consequences such as the US will be less active in the middle east, no longer reliant on middle eastern gas/oil. leaving those who are reliant to their own devices. yet again making supply less secure, you cannot run a 21st century economy on insecure energy supply. l

the negatives are no more than the current gas/oil operations. shale gas will generate jobs, growth, investment and energy security for the foreseeable future.

Edited by stevewinn, 07 February 2014 - 02:04 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 03:33 PM

Well this chap is now to sue the Police... its in the main news today

"The father-of-four, who has a doctorate in metaphysical sciences, accused Greater Manchester Police officers of lying before holding him on 'a ridiculous, trumped-up charge'. He was later charged with failing to provide a specimen and hauled before the courts. However, the case collapsed when prosecutors offered no evidence.

Dr Peers is now planning to sue police for wrongful arrest, false imprisonment and assault following the incident.

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2sePQYmK1

Thats should earn him a few quid then, specially with our compensation culture

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 05:52 PM

View Postseeder, on 07 February 2014 - 03:33 PM, said:

Well this chap is now to sue the Police... its in the main news today

"The father-of-four, who has a doctorate in metaphysical sciences, accused Greater Manchester Police officers of lying before holding him on 'a ridiculous, trumped-up charge'. He was later charged with failing to provide a specimen and hauled before the courts. However, the case collapsed when prosecutors offered no evidence.

Dr Peers is now planning to sue police for wrongful arrest, false imprisonment and assault following the incident.

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz2sePQYmK1

Thats should earn him a few quid then, specially with our compensation culture

he may plan to sue the police, but he wont win. the moment he refused to provide a specimen of breath he committed an offence. i hope he ends up with a large legal bill and court costs.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 06:32 PM

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he may plan to sue the police, but he wont win. the moment he refused to provide a specimen of breath he committed an offence. i hope he ends up with a large legal bill and court costs.
That's interesting - over here we aren't charged, even if we are obviously drunk and refuse the test.  They would still arrest, of course, but the penalty for refusing a sobriety check is suspension of your driver license for 1 year.  Trust me, that is a MAJOR problem in most places in the US. The effect of refusal though is that no evidence can be presented.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 07:05 PM

View Poststevewinn, on 07 February 2014 - 05:52 PM, said:

he may plan to sue the police, but he wont win. the moment he refused to provide a specimen of breath he committed an offence. i hope he ends up with a large legal bill and court costs.

Outside any fracking/hippie/demonstration discussions, it is a must that it will be investigated if the officer was
guilty for perversion of justice.
If guilty, he must be punished by disciplinary measures/decruited as arbitrariness performed during on duty does
not match the defined general criteria of the executive forces of a democratic/constitutional monarchic governed country.

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