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#1    Sakari

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:56 AM

I rarely get to post these things. I have in a topic I made called " sightings from skeptics " when people say " well, you have never experienced it then "....

Anyway, I am not saying this was a " ghost ", just posting my experience for your enjoyment, and it is detailed and real.

I work at a Copper and Gold mine in Morenci, Arizona. ( feel free to google it )

It has been there for a very long time.

I have been told numerous stories of how it is " haunted ", and do not have the time, nor the patience to share all of those....

2 nights ago, I was starting my graveyard shift. I was starting 3 hours late, do to a class I had to take the next day. ( class at work ) I went into the mens changing room, and set down my coveralls and lunch box. No one was in there, as it is far from the process plant, and shifts were started 3 hours before.
I had to use the bathroom stall as I all ways do after my 55 mile drive. I took the last one in, and they were all empty. I have this dumb thing where I can not go number 2 with company.

When I was about done doing my business, and kind of just relaxing, I saw the stall door shadow next to me move inward, the door was opening. As said, I have a fear of other people being next to me when I poop, so I am very quiet. The door opened about 3 feet slowly, then slowly back to closed, then opened about an inch. No footsteps at all, and I did bend over to look for feet.( again, my paranoid pooping phobia )....No one in there.

I then heard the paper towel dispenser go two turns ( automatic one, motion sensor )......I did not hear anyone rip off the towels. ( it was very quiet in there with the place empty ).I was done, so within 10 seconds I was out of the stall.

No towels were out of the dispenser, and I used it right away to dry my hands, so it was not empty. I checked around the entire place, and no one was in there at all.

I told a few people, some believe it is a normal thing, and a ghost. They asked me if I was scared. Funny thing, I was not. I had the thought in my head, but I know they do not exist, and it has a explanation. I do not have an explanation, and just because I do not does not mean I will call it a " haunting ".

It was pretty cool, and my " 3rd " thing I can not explain....

Do I believe in ghosts?.......Nope.

Have I had experiences....Yes.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:03 AM

lol your pooping phobia made me laugh

But other then that I like the whole concept of sharing  "sceptic ghost stories"

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:14 AM

It seems to me that I see/hear poltergeist style things all the time. Stuff that seemed to have moved from where I put it down and such. Noises at night that sound like the dog walking around downstairs, when the dog is right there on the bed. Stuff that basically I just ignore and assume that whatever it is is natural, like floorboards shrinking or one of the kids moving stuff....

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 04:18 AM

Nice post, Sakari.  And I'll bet you a squillion dollars that this thread will unfold with great politeness and respect because of the way *you* respond..  Anyway, the skeptic and jokester in me has some comments to offer:

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I have been told numerous stories of how it is " haunted ", and do not have the time, nor the patience to share all of those....
Thank you for sparing us..  But are any of a similar nature?  Also, is the mine a 'happy' working environment, and are any of your workmates possible practical jokers?  Alternatively, is there a possible 'Scooby Doo' type character who might want to scare everyone away and close the mine because they have discovered a secwut vein of diamonds/rubies/emeralds/unobtainium???   Yep, I think I'm nailin' it!!! :D

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2 nights ago, I was starting my graveyard shift. I was starting 3 hours late, do to a class I had to take the next day. ( class at work ) I went into the mens changing room, and set down my coveralls and lunch box. No one was in there, as it is far from the process plant, and shifts were started 3 hours before.
I had to use the bathroom stall as I all ways do after my 55 mile drive. I took the last one in, and they were all empty. I have this dumb thing where I can not go number 2 with company.
I can relate - I hate public toilets, and if anything it's worse when they are shared by workmates...

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When I was about done doing my business, and kind of just relaxing, I saw the stall door shadow next to me move inward, the door was opening. As said, I have a fear of other people being next to me when I poop, so I am very quiet. The door opened about 3 feet slowly, then slowly back to closed, then opened about an inch. No footsteps at all, and I did bend over to look for feet.( again, my paranoid pooping phobia )....No one in there.
I then heard the paper towel dispenser go two turns ( automatic one, motion sensor )......I did not hear anyone rip off the towels. ( it was very quiet in there with the place empty ).I was done, so within 10 seconds I was out of the stall.
No towels were out of the dispenser, and I used it right away to dry my hands, so it was not empty. I checked around the entire place, and no one was in there at all.
Coupla questions - have you taken a look at the entire scenario from a practical joke point of view, to see if you could work out how to do it?  I'm thinking a long stick/pole would suffice to do all that, but without seeing the scene..  Is it relatively easy to sneak up to near the cubicles?  Also, are you certain the noise was the dispenser?  Toilets often have other relay operated systems on timers...


Anyway, other than - I'd grab my Scooby Snacks and RRRRRun forrrr it!!

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 04:31 AM

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Thank you for sparing us..  But are any of a similar nature?  Also, is the mine a 'happy' working environment, and are any of your workmates possible practical jokers?  Alternatively, is there a possible 'Scooby Doo' type character who might want to scare everyone away and close the mine because they have discovered a secwut vein of diamonds/rubies/emeralds/unobtainium???   Yep, I think I'm nailin' it!!! :D

Most stories are " seeing " things, and being touched, or pushed on the back. Not a hard push.

Let me add to the " ghost " thing...This Mine has had over 30 deaths on property.......Spooky huh?

As for joking, no, everyone is great, but safety is a huge thing there, and as for a long pole or anything, nope. Hard to explain it, but it is a big locker room. I do know 100% no one was in there. Unless they floated out real fast, and did not use a door, or go through the security gate. Gate takes a card that is scanned to open, a circular gate. Then about 60 steps to the parking lot. No one in site...


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I can relate - I hate public toilets, and if anything it's worse when they are shared by workmates...

I hate it with a passion. Thinking of going with depends.


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Coupla questions - have you taken a look at the entire scenario from a practical joke point of view, to see if you could work out how to do it?  I'm thinking a long stick/pole would suffice to do all that, but without seeing the scene..  Is it relatively easy to sneak up to near the cubicles?  Also, are you certain the noise was the dispenser?  Toilets often have other relay operated systems on timers...

I am 100% sure no one was in there except me. The toilets are manual flush, towel dispensers are the only automated thing in there.



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Anyway, other than - I'd grab my Scooby Snacks and RRRRRun forrrr it!!

Really was not scary.....I looked around for 10 minutes, but had to go to work.

And, again, for those that read this.....I do not believe in ghosts. I know there is a answer to this, but I just do not know it yet.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 04:39 AM

If it makes you feel better, I can't poop either with other people around.

As far as the experience, we have weird things like that happen at the hospital I work at.  Things move around on their own (you leave something in one place, come back, it's somewhere else), you can hear cabinet doors shut when no one is in a room, all kinds of wierd happenings.  Could be drafts.  Sometimes those automatic dispensers will fire for no reason (we have those, too).

This site was pretty interesting:
http://www.mininghis...org/Morenci.htm

That's an old site, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some legit hauntings there.  Maybe next time you'll say hi?


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 04:48 AM

View PostAwake2Chaos, on 13 February 2014 - 04:39 AM, said:

If it makes you feel better, I can't poop either with other people around.

As far as the experience, we have weird things like that happen at the hospital I work at.  Things move around on their own (you leave something in one place, come back, it's somewhere else), you can hear cabinet doors shut when no one is in a room, all kinds of wierd happenings.  Could be drafts.  Sometimes those automatic dispensers will fire for no reason (we have those, too).

This site was pretty interesting:
http://www.mininghis...org/Morenci.htm

That's an old site, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some legit hauntings there.  Maybe next time you'll say hi?

Thanks, I am off to bed but will check link tomorrow......


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If it makes you feel better, I can't poop either with other people around.

I need to make a topic on that.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 04:58 AM

View PostAwake2Chaos, on 13 February 2014 - 04:39 AM, said:

I can't poop either with other people around.

Yeah, I avoid those Poop Party invites as well!
Just ****'n with you! (pun intended)
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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:05 AM

View PostSakari, on 13 February 2014 - 04:31 AM, said:

I do not believe in ghosts. I know there is a answer to this, but I just do not know it yet.

*snip*
Not that this may have anything to do with your situation, but when I read about possible pranksters, this always come to mind. It was so baffling...
I had a friend in college who was the victim of a prankster(s) over about a 2 year period. You would be surprised at how unbelievably good some of these pranksters can be. It was like he was being stalked/harassed by a ghost.
My friend was a weight lifter and runner and yet this prankster(s) would get away in situations where it would seem like he had to have vanished into thin air.
It was a very perplexing situation. It almost drove my friend mad.
Anyway, we were eventually able to figure out the who (down to a few names) and the why, but not the how.
It was an amazing two-year long series of pranks, he/they were NEVER caught or even SEEN.
And no rumors on campus and to WHO they were.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 13 February 2014 - 05:10 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 06:40 AM

I'll say that if the place has a history of 'sightings', there's a possibility it could be haunted.

In the case you did encounter something out of the normal, I doubt it was anything bad.

Just going about its business.

Or there could be a reasonable explanation; but since you were in the stall it was hard to get anymore details.

I'm curious, to say the least! But thanks for sharing.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 03:24 PM

View PostSakari, on 13 February 2014 - 12:56 AM, said:



2 nights ago, I was starting my graveyard shift. I was starting 3 hours late, do to a class I had to take the next day. ( class at work ) I went into the mens changing room, and set down my coveralls and lunch box. No one was in there, as it is far from the process plant, and shifts were started 3 hours before.
I had to use the bathroom stall as I all ways do after my 55 mile drive. I took the last one in, and they were all empty. I have this dumb thing where I can not go number 2 with company.

When I was about done doing my business, and kind of just relaxing, I saw the stall door shadow next to me move inward, the door was opening. As said, I have a fear of other people being next to me when I poop, so I am very quiet. The door opened about 3 feet slowly, then slowly back to closed, then opened about an inch. No footsteps at all, and I did bend over to look for feet.( again, my paranoid pooping phobia )....No one in there.

I then heard the paper towel dispenser go two turns ( automatic one, motion sensor )......I did not hear anyone rip off the towels. ( it was very quiet in there with the place empty ).I was done, so within 10 seconds I was out of the stall.

No towels were out of the dispenser, and I used it right away to dry my hands, so it was not empty. I checked around the entire place, and no one was in there at all.




Anyway, hope you enjoyed.

hello Sakari,

1- were there any windows open?
2- how many cubicles are there in total?
3- were all the doors shut? (assume so, as you said it was opening)
4- did you open each door prior to choosing the last cubicle to do your business?


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 05:52 PM

View Postquillius, on 13 February 2014 - 03:24 PM, said:

hello Sakari,

1- were there any windows open?
2- how many cubicles are there in total?
3- were all the doors shut? (assume so, as you said it was opening)
4- did you open each door prior to choosing the last cubicle to do your business?


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1- were there any windows open?

I wish I could post a pic. The place is huge. There are windows, old ones like in the old train stations.They are about 25 feet up. Some are open and some are closed, they never change. Not a breeze at all. Pretty damn cold actually.

2- how many cubicles are there in total?

In the area I was in 8.


3- were all the doors shut? (assume so, as you said it was opening)

Shut yes, but ( me being anal ) I walk down and checked each one to ensure I had my privacy to get things done fast.


4- did you open each door prior to choosing the last cubicle to do your business?

Yes, each one. I usually use stall #3, but since the shift had started and no one was in there, I took the last one against the wall.




Background: Phelps Dodge & Company invested $50,000 in the property in 1881, marking the New York mercantile’s first venture into mining. Through acquisition, Phelps Dodge & Company consolidated all mining operations in the district by 1921. Initially underground, Morenci transitioned to open-pit mining beginning in 1937. The operation nearly doubled its production capacity during World War II at the urging of the U.S. government to meet wartime needs. Morenci’s first SX/EW plant was commissioned in 1987. Once home to two smelters, the last smelter ceased operation in 1984. Both have been demolished and reclaimed.

The biggest employer in Morenci (and in nearby Clifton) is Freeport-McMoRan, the owner of the Morenci Mine, the largest copper mining operation in North America, and one of the largest copper mines in the world.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:16 PM

Don't have an explanation for the event, but I know from experience that working graveyard shifts can play funny things with your mind.

Especially if you're working in a production facility that employs hundreds during the day but is next to empty at night.  I used to work in a food processing factory that ran our pizza production area 24 hours a day during the week as it was more economical due to the nature of how it worked so I was part of a crew working 8pm-8am shifts.  There was us, nighttime cleaning crew cleaning the other production areas that didn't run during the night and some engineers and technicians on hand in case something went wrong.  Wandering through the place at night when the cleaning crew was on their break and I was in a different part of the factory picking up something we need from stores, I'd regularly get the weird impression that someone was coming up behind me or that I heard someone say something.

Not saying anything like that happened to you, but nightshift can be a strange experience.

Having said that, there was a couple of guys who would sometimes turn up drunk for nightshift and were more of a nuisance to deal with than the strange noises and feelings.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 07:19 PM

View PostJesseCuster, on 13 February 2014 - 07:16 PM, said:

Don't have an explanation for the event, but I know from experience that working graveyard shifts can play funny things with your mind.

Especially if you're working in a production facility that employs hundreds during the day but is next to empty at night.  I used to work in a food processing factory that ran our pizza production area 24 hours a day during the week as it was more economical due to the nature of how it worked so I was part of a crew working 8pm-8am shifts.  There was us, nighttime cleaning crew cleaning the other production areas that didn't run during the night and some engineers and technicians on hand in case something went wrong.  Wandering through the place at night when the cleaning crew was on their break and I was in a different part of the factory picking up something we need from stores, I'd regularly get the weird impression that someone was coming up behind me or that I heard someone say something.

Not saying anything like that happened to you, but nightshift can be a strange experience.

Having said that, there was a couple of guys who would sometimes turn up drunk for nightshift and were more of a nuisance to deal with than the strange noises and feelings.

Even worse, we do a rotating shift.....

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:43 PM

View PostSakari, on 13 February 2014 - 07:19 PM, said:

Even worse, we do a rotating shift.....
I actually preferred the rotating shift (6am-2pm, 10pm-6am, 2pm-10pm) the permanent nightshifts.  I couldn't switch to regular hours at the weekend and spend myself out of sync with the world around me.

But most guys I worked with preferred the permanent nights after we moved over from a rotating shift.

This is derailing the thread however.

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