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#1    F3SS

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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:16 PM

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Father So Heartbroken About Daughter Held at Hospital Against His Will He Just Defied a Judge’s Order to Talk to Us: ‘I Want to Have All My Guns Blazing’

http://www.theblaze....y-guns-blazing/

This ain't right. It's going to require the weasely MSM to make a spectacle of this for anything to happen. Good for the dad. Speaking with Beck was a great way to reach a few million people and selfless conservatives, myself included. I'm donating a few bucks.
I didn't catch the whole interview but I know there was more terrible info than what was in this article since I heard things on the radio that are absent within. Anyhow, if the father didn't, and I don't think he did, he needs to publicly name names of every single doctor involved that he knows of. Apparently speaking of just the hospital isn't doing anything. Names and faces need to be hounded by the press. Who do these people think they are? Just told my fiancé that if we have a kid and this happens to us she had better get used to visiting me in jail. Nobody kidnaps my family without me making every attempt to get them back.

Edited by F3SS, 18 February 2014 - 11:43 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:29 PM

Donated! Only ten bucks but that's all I can do ATM. Hope it helps.


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Posted 18 February 2014 - 11:34 PM

Thanks for posting this - I just sent in a few bucks also.  OUTRAGEOUS!

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:06 AM

first of all you really don't know anything about this case judging by what is in that article. you only know what these parents are saying, and that is one side of a very big story here. where are these doctors who diagnosed her with this disorder? why aren't they speaking out for them?
it sounds to me like there are some very logical reasons for keeping these parents out of the loop seeing as they are sabotaging their daughter's treatment by sneaking information etc behind the backs of those trying to care for her. i'm not surprised they were gagged either...so to speak.
i dunno it just sounds way too one sided and i'm feeling like there is way more information we aren't given here,

Edited by JGirl, 19 February 2014 - 12:07 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:10 AM

WTF did i just read :S


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:23 AM

I agree with Jgirl that the story seems fishy, but that being said I see no reason why they should keep the child unless they can prove criminal neglect. Drugging up the kid and giving her enemas don't technically count as abuse.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:28 AM

I want to hear the other side. But I am sketched out by he fact they gave a gag order to the parents. Like wtf they can do that?

And as gromer said you cant just keep someone unless there is a criminal link

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:37 AM

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But I am sketched out by he fact they gave a gag order to the parents

Probably because someone doesnt want to admit they are wrong and is doing everything they can to save their reputation :S


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:46 AM

actually everyone involved in the court hearing was put on gag order, not just the parents of this girl. that's a bit misleading to say the least

here is another article giving a bit more information on the case, although it's older
http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1609998


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 01:18 AM

Considering all of the past proven medical problems with the girl, the present day degeneration of her condition, the fact that she had an original diagnosis and to this day insists she is in permanent pain due to the denial of pain medication, I would say someone is definitely trying to save their reputation over the drastic overreaction of her confinement.

The articles also claim that there are at least a dozen other families going through the exact same scenario from this hospital.

The whole, "I can't get caught giving you these notes or else I'll get tortured(her words for the "behavioral modification" the hospital is giving her) again." thing when she would give her parent small cards in secret is pretty scary.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 01:42 AM

The gag order is the creepy. What got me about this is not that I read it, I actually remember a while back hearing this story, but that I actually heard the dad on the radio. He sounded pretty pssed and convincing and most of all his biggest 'crime' seems to be following doctors orders in the first place and whoever 'they' may be concocted some over medicalizing abuse allegations because of it. Then, who is this neurologists that pops in supposedly without looking at any patient files and deems this girl is a psychotic hypochondriac and gets her thrown in a funny farm? Plus, a dozen other allegations of the same hospital doing the same devious thing? I'd like more details on that but all in all this all don't sound right. I could end up regretting being conned but that's one bold conman to go on a nationally syndicated radio show that owns a huge website and pathetically use his daughter as a crutch to heist the country into a scam.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 02:03 AM

Alright, here's some details about another case or two. I can't even make a specific comment. There's just so much to question about this hospital, their disdain for mitochondria, their internal child protective services unit and their seeming ability to be above the law and mostly it's unknown motivation.
http://www.theblaze....families-again/
...Long article...


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:24 PM

View PostF3SS, on 19 February 2014 - 02:03 AM, said:

Alright, here's some details about another case or two. I can't even make a specific comment. There's just so much to question about this hospital, their disdain for mitochondria, their internal child protective services unit and their seeming ability to be above the law and mostly it's unknown motivation.
http://www.theblaze....families-again/
...Long article...
most of what's out there about this case is coming from this one news outlet The Blaze. from what i see it's very slanted and a bit heavy on the appeal to emotion with regard to this
as i mentioned before, this gag order that everyone is up in arms about is not toward the family themeselves or specifically. it is a court order that applied to everyone involved in the proceedings which the parents are breaking. there is no conspiracy against the parents here, it's a normal thing for a judge to do when there is a hearing going on about something so controversial
anyway, you want to run with this without getting both sides of this story go ahead - i'm going to wait and see what lies deeper in this story because there is obviously something more than a hospital or a select number of specialists doing something like this without some significant reason.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:32 PM

Shouldn't the media interview Justina first before accepting donations from gullible watchers of the fake-libertarian Glenn Beck show?

Did we hear even one word from this girl?   Love and abuse aren't always mutually exclusive.  Plenty of parents abuse their kids, and because the kids don't know any better because they have no other frame of reference, they still love their parents well enough.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:38 PM

View PostF3SS, on 19 February 2014 - 01:42 AM, said:

The gag order is the creepy. What got me about this is not that I read it, I actually remember a while back hearing this story, but that I actually heard the dad on the radio. He sounded pretty pssed and convincing and most of all his biggest 'crime' seems to be following doctors orders in the first place and whoever 'they' may be concocted some over medicalizing abuse allegations because of it. Then, who is this neurologists that pops in supposedly without looking at any patient files and deems this girl is a psychotic hypochondriac and gets her thrown in a funny farm? Plus, a dozen other allegations of the same hospital doing the same devious thing? I'd like more details on that but all in all this all don't sound right. I could end up regretting being conned but that's one bold conman to go on a nationally syndicated radio show that owns a huge website and pathetically use his daughter as a crutch to heist the country into a scam.
Yeah, except the con man isn't the father it's Glenn Beck.   Brother, you're conned already if you listen to that weasel.  Oh he says all the right words, don't get me wrong.  He's the Flavor of the Year.

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