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Heaven and Back?: Man dead for 45 minutes

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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:42 PM

Brian Miller was declared dead after suffering a massive heart attack at a Ohio hospital.

Then to the surprise of nurses and doctors, after 45 minutes, his heart randomly started beating again.

Miller, 41, told WJW-TV that while he was out, he saw a light and relatives who had passed away.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:00 PM

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It WOULD be his mother in law who spoiled the party!  :w00t:
Seriously though, after reading Moody's book on this topic - and a couple of others - these characteristic reports have been going on for centuries.  I don't know what they are but I have no doubt it is a common experience of mankind.  I'm glad that most are comforting.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:00 PM

It wasn't his time yet, so they kicked him out of heaven.

I've heard many stories about experiences like this.  Didn't use to believe them, thought their mind might be playing tricks on them but after seeing a ghost I've changed my mind.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:30 PM

I don't find personal anecdotes the slightest bit convincing. Just as there are people who you can speak with who will claim alien abduction, bigfoot encounters, and demonic possession. The fact that many people have had these sorts of encounters does nothing to prove the validity of the claims.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

41 years old and has a heart attack.  Look at the mans picture everyone.  41 is young to be dying of a heart attack, if you are young and overwieght take this story as a warning.  Obesity kills.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:50 PM

From what I understand from the video is that his heart never actually stopped, but was off, and weak.

Or am I missing something here?

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 11:52 PM

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View PostOverSword, on 20 February 2014 - 11:37 PM, said:

41 years old and has a heart attack.  Look at the mans picture everyone.  41 is young to be dying of a heart attack, if you are young and overwieght take this story as a warning.  Obesity kills.

Good ad slogan for McDonalds.

"Bringing you closer to the light one burger at a time."

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Inanna the Goddess of love was crucified, then after 3 days/nights was resurrected. An over 3,000 yo Tablet saying this is proof of it's truth. Praise Jesus Serotonin Christ!

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:18 AM

View PostHideout, on 20 February 2014 - 11:30 PM, said:

I don't find personal anecdotes the slightest bit convincing. Just as there are people who you can speak with who will claim alien abduction, bigfoot encounters, and demonic possession. The fact that many people have had these sorts of encounters does nothing to prove the validity of the claims.
Anecdotes are all there are and of course as such may be dismissed. But the stories have been startlingly similar and date back to the time of Plato at least.  Raymond Moody's book Life after Life cites many of these.  For such similarities to exist over such a long period of time should begin to raise one's curiosity, no?

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:22 AM

Seeing light seems to be common with people who have had "near death" experience, but your brain uses electrical impulses in order to work,could they be seeing the last electrical flash before darkness descends permanently.A few years ago experiments were carried out on patients near death,at which point their bodies lost 21 grammes weight when death occurred,this is still an unexplained mystery.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:23 AM

View Postand then, on 21 February 2014 - 12:18 AM, said:

Anecdotes are all there are and of course as such may be dismissed. But the stories have been startlingly similar and date back to the time of Plato at least.  Raymond Moody's book Life after Life cites many of these.  For such similarities to exist over such a long period of time should begin to raise one's curiosity, no?
There have also been startlingly similar stories of possession for many many years. I don't take this as enough to believe in such things. By all means, have your curiosity peaked, investigate, though I'm not sure in what way you would be able to do so. However, don't allow yourself to be credulous enough to believe these things simply because a number of people have said the same thing.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:26 AM

View Postdavros of skaro, on 20 February 2014 - 11:50 PM, said:

From what I understand from the video is that his heart never actually stopped, but was off, and weak.

Or am I missing something here?

View Postdavros of skaro, on 20 February 2014 - 11:50 PM, said:

From what I understand from the video is that his heart never actually stopped, but was off, and weak.

Or am I missing something here?
It was confusing.  I had only read the text and once viewing the video it seems he was never really completely dead.  He had no pulse or respiration but that was being provided by CPR.  It's still a story that is very similar to those that have been told for over a thousand years.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:28 AM

View PostHideout, on 21 February 2014 - 12:23 AM, said:

There have also been startlingly similar stories of possession for many many years. I don't take this as enough to believe in such things. By all means, have your curiosity peaked, investigate, though I'm not sure in what way you would be able to do so. However, don't allow yourself to be credulous enough to believe these things simply because a number of people have said the same thing.
And the harm in taking hope from such an event is...what, exactly?  That an educated person would be chagrined? Life is short and pain is long - anything that lifts the burden and brings a little gladness or sense of peace is welcome as far as I'm concerned - but to each his own.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:33 AM

View Postand then, on 21 February 2014 - 12:28 AM, said:

And the harm in taking hope from such an event is...what, exactly?  That an educated person would be chagrined? Life is short and pain is long - anything that lifts the burden and brings a little gladness or sense of peace is welcome as far as I'm concerned - but to each his own.
No harm directly from it, though I personally care to believe as many true things as possible, and as few untrue things. Ideally, I would like the majority of the world to want the same thing. Now that being said, I would hold no ill will towards someone who believed in these things, as long as they didn't try to force them onto others, or interfere with progress because of these beliefs.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 01:01 AM

many religion haters say that man created religion. I believe that these experiences created the belief in the afterlife and vis a vis, religion. which can only be expected. it is the only thing that really makes sense. religion is too abstract an idea for it crop up all by itself as a means on control, there are plenty of other ways to "control"a population that is far easier.....like violence and power.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 01:02 AM

His mother in law kicks him out ot heaven, go figure.  I know mine would kick me out and I would be glad to leave.

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