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The Great Pyramid's Stepped Core ?

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#1    M. Williams

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 05:41 AM


The micro-gravimetric scan done by H.D. Bui indicates the existence of a stepped core inside The Great Pyramid .The breach in Menkaure's Pyramid shows it has an inner stepped core, The Queen's Pyramids are stepped, so a stepped core in The Great Pyramid wouldn't seem out of place. There is other evidence, but the scan is pretty hard to argue with.

I believe the scan may also show a series of ramps climbing the steps in a spiral pattern.

http://hdbui.blogspot.com/

I drew this overlay to illustrate how ramps would fit into the spiral pattern in the scan .

http://www.academia...._Ramp_overlay_.

These may be the ramps used to build the kings chamber. Haze marks running at 7 degrees along the sides of the pyramid correlate with this spiral pattern and may be the residue of an internal Tafla/limestone chip spiral ramp leaching out onto the darker sandstone backing stones we see today.

The steps were later filled in and the casing stone installed using an external spiral ramp (https://www.academia..._Mason_Williams ) the majority of which was used to build the top 20 meters of the GP. This would leave under .5 % of the pyramids volume of unused ramp material to be removed from the pyramid's flanks.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:24 AM

Interesting... So, you mean like Jean-Pierre Houdin's proposal?




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Posted 11 March 2014 - 01:20 PM

This is one of my favorite theories.


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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:05 PM

View PostM. Williams, on 11 March 2014 - 05:41 AM, said:

The micro-gravimetric scan done by H.D. Bui indicates the existence of a stepped core inside The Great Pyramid .The breach in Menkaure's Pyramid shows it has an inner stepped core, The Queen's Pyramids are stepped, so a stepped core in The Great Pyramid wouldn't seem out of place. There is other evidence, but the scan is pretty hard to argue with.

I believe the scan may also show a series of ramps climbing the steps in a spiral pattern.

http://hdbui.blogspot.com/

I believe there is an arguement to be made for the spiral pattern on the gravimetric map, but myself, I think that the map is not clear enough to be used as proof of ramps. If this is such good proof, then why is there only this one map? Why was the procedure only done once and never repeated?

If we had 3 or 4 such maps from 2 or 3 sources, I'd be very enthusiastic about what they showed, but with one source and one map, I think the idea is still very debatable.

Edited by DieChecker, 11 March 2014 - 08:06 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:31 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 11 March 2014 - 08:05 PM, said:


If we had 3 or 4 such maps from 2 or 3 sources, I'd be very enthusiastic about what they showed, but with one source and one map, I think the idea is still very debatable.

Maybe one stepped pyramid is more than anyone wanted to see.

It's easy enough to not see the steps in Djoser's Pyramid since it isn't even considered a real
pyramid and it's easy enough not to see the steps in the Meidum Pyramid because it's collapsed.
It's easy enough to not see that the Bent Pyramid isn't regular since it is afterall, bent but who
wants to find out the Red Pyramid and G2 have five steps as well?

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Posted 11 March 2014 - 08:36 PM

View Postcladking, on 11 March 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:


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And why in the world isn't that thing on the right middle of the photo considered evidence of ramps?

Are people actually trying to solve these mysteries or just waiting for Mason Williams to do it for them?

Why do I have to make the case both for and against ramps?

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 12:26 AM

View PostLemieux, on 11 March 2014 - 09:24 AM, said:

Interesting... So, you mean like Jean-Pierre Houdin's proposal?


Hello lemieux

The stepped core would preclude an interior spiral ramp as Mr. Houdin proposes. What I'm trying to show is the Great Pyramid was already a stepped pyramid when Khufu began his work. Khufu made ramps out of rubble on the steps .These are the ramps that Khufu used to build the Kings Chamber The  green in the scan shows this less dense ramp material which was left in place and covered over with the denser smooth casing we see today.

The smooth casing was installed with a ramp like this
https://www.academia..._Mason_Williams

Edited by M. Williams, 12 March 2014 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:20 AM

View Postcladking, on 11 March 2014 - 08:31 PM, said:

but who wants to find out the Red Pyramid and G2 have five steps as well?
I suspect a lot of people would.

What do you think is the reason that no other gravimetric mapping has been done?

From a quick google search it seems that to make a gravimetric map you need to pass over the area being measured. So either someone would have to crane a device over the pyramid, or they would have to climb the pyramid on foot, or perhaps mount one on a heli-drone. So, probably the legal issue are why no follow up scans have been done. No one would be allowed to climb all over the pyramids, like would be required, and no crane would be tall enough, and no drone would be allowed to fly around under the current military regime.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:46 AM

View PostDieChecker, on 12 March 2014 - 03:20 AM, said:

I suspect a lot of people would.

What do you think is the reason that no other gravimetric mapping has been done?

From a quick google search it seems that to make a gravimetric map you need to pass over the area being measured. So either someone would have to crane a device over the pyramid, or they would have to climb the pyramid on foot, or perhaps mount one on a heli-drone. So, probably the legal issue are why no follow up scans have been done. No one would be allowed to climb all over the pyramids, like would be required, and no crane would be tall enough, and no drone would be allowed to fly around under the current military regime.

Bui has a recently published book on exactly how it was done and the computations involved.

I should spring for it but can't convince myself it will be helpful.

There just isn't much science being done any longer outside of narrowly defined parameters.
They have done various things that can further Egyptological study but almost nothing at all
in 25 years that "merely" provides data.  It seems they are more interested in proving existing
theory and finding things to attract tourists than in gathering data.  There are numerous possi-
bilities for why this would occur but it's probably just that their priorities are determined by ex-
isting beliefs.

I do suspect that with modern materials a gravimetric scan can be made finer and with more
detail.  Getting these done on all the pyramids and redone on G1 should be priorities right be-
hind infrared and ultraviolet imaging.  There is a laundry list of things that need to be done.

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:50 AM

The price has come down quite a bit;

http://www.springer....8-94-007-2656-7

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 04:04 AM

View PostM. Williams, on 12 March 2014 - 12:26 AM, said:

Hello lemieux

The stepped core would preclude an interior spiral ramp as Mr. Houdin proposes. What I'm trying to show is the Great Pyramid was already a stepped pyramid when Khufu began his work. Khufu made ramps out of rubble on the steps .These are the ramps that Khufu used to build the Kings Chamber The  green in the scan shows this less dense ramp material which was left in place and covered over with the denser smooth casing we see today.

The smooth casing was installed with a ramp like this
https://www.academia..._Mason_Williams

Oh I see, thank you for the reply. Ya completely different... and very interesting as well.  Thanks!


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 07:00 AM

No more 'magic bullet' theories ... currently the main and primary difficulties regarding all possible theories is the '20 - 25 years' completion time frame ...

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:04 PM

View Postthird_eye, on 12 March 2014 - 07:00 AM, said:

No more 'magic bullet' theories ... currently the main and primary difficulties regarding all possible theories is the '20 - 25 years' completion time frame ...

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Hello Third-eye

My theory is that the Great Pyramid was already a stepped pyramid when Khufu began his 'remodel'.. Khufu added the King's Chamber ,backing stones and casing, filling in the steps. This would make the 20-25 year schedule less daunting.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 09:56 PM

Bui needs a much better English editor: as it is, his thesis seems to be written in bafflegab. Maybe he has a point, maybe not, but it's harder to tell than the effort of reading it is worth.


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:10 PM

View PostM. Williams, on 12 March 2014 - 09:04 PM, said:

Hello Third-eye

My theory is that the Great Pyramid was already a stepped pyramid when Khufu began his 'remodel'.. Khufu added the King's Chamber ,backing stones and casing, filling in the steps. This would make the 20-25 year schedule less daunting.

With all due respect ... even so and IF there is a stepped pyramid beneath all that ... the time frame allowed by current accepted 'evidence' is still much too many years short of a decade for all that work ... taking into consideration that the 'Grand Gallery' and Upper Level Chambers is part of any later refurbishing.

The outer skin of facing stones itself would take the full 20 years and more in itself.

On a side note ... I believe the 'air shafts' of both the King and Queens Chambers were a means by which the builders kept the Chambers 'Centered' while putting up the Pyramid ... what do you think ?

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