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#1    keithisco

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:29 PM

This has probably been missed with the heinous situation in Crimea, but Venice is also voting today (and over the course of the next week), to become independent from Italy. It is yet another non - binding referendum....


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Voting has begin in Venice and the surrounding region on whether to break away from Italy.
Recent opinion polls suggest that two thirds of the four million electorate favour splitting from Rome, but the vote will not be legally binding.


Read More (courtesy BBC): http://www.bbc.com/n...europe-26604044

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:46 PM

So, how do they suppose they could possibly go it alone as an independent city state?  I mean, the economy has changed a bit since the glorious days of the Doges,

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 05:56 PM

Good for them. I guess they'd rely on trading & tourism, doesn't look like agriculture would be their best bet... but what would prevent Italy from enforcing their claim on Venice with force if Venice actually tried to go through with this all the way? How far would, ahd should they go?

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:30 PM

I mean if two thirds truly want to split from a country then I see no reason why they should not be free too.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:47 PM

View Postspartan max2, on 16 March 2014 - 06:30 PM, said:

I mean if two thirds truly want to split from a country then I see no reason why they should not be free too.
What if that two thirds happens to be sitting on most of the natural wealth of the country?  South Sudan is a prime example.  It just leads to war.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:50 PM

The problem is (like with Scotland) that they often seem to expect that the country they want to split from will continue supporting them, or that they'll be able to just take whatever share of the economy, the armed forces etc happens to be in their part of it.

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Posted 16 March 2014 - 06:52 PM

Thanks for posting Keith i heard rumblings about this on the news awhile ago and completely forgot about it. i cannot see how this referendum can be even considered legal, for the result to carry any legality the Italian government would need to give its approval.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:23 AM

There seems to be more and more regions and provinces that want to be apart from rest of a country, next will be Naples then Sicily


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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:42 AM

If anyone wants Canberra, you can havr it as long as you take Tony Abbott as well.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 09:44 AM

Perhaps it shows how tenuous the notion of the 'nation' really is, however important some people may consider it to be to salute the Flag at every opportunity. The good thing now is that, even if these small states may have perpetually warred with each other back in mediaval times, very few of them now would have any significant military capability at all, a modern military capability would be completely out of the reach of even wealthy states like Venice might be, let alone somewhere like Scotland. The military power would surely remain in the control of some kind of federal government, while leaving the individual states to look after themselves.

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:39 PM

Yup Colonel, but would they need any serious military power? It'd be quite different if they lived closer to Russia or USA...

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Posted 17 March 2014 - 02:41 PM

Everyone seems to think they do.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:11 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 17 March 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:

If anyone wants Canberra, you can havr it as long as you take Tony Abbott as well.

Oi! What's Canberra ever done to you? (And I'll remind you that 98% of Federal politicians do not come from Canberra...)

And it's not like we voted for Abbott - blame the good burghers of Manly and Mosman for that.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 03:39 AM

Well if you get out quickly, we could wall it up with the pollies there and improve the collective national IQ

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 09:28 AM

View Poststevewinn, on 16 March 2014 - 06:52 PM, said:

i cannot see how this referendum can be even considered legal, for the result to carry any legality the Italian government would need to give its approval.
Or have over 20,000 French troops roll in and scare the Pope.

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