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#1    fullywired

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 07:54 PM

In the "God Delusion"  Richard Dawkins made  a scale to assess your beliefs or lack of them ,how do you rate your self

  • Strong Theist: I do not question the existence of God, I KNOW he exists.
  • De-facto Theist: I cannot know for certain but I strongly believe in God and I live my life on the assumption that he is there.
  • Weak Theist: I am very uncertain, but I am inclined to believe in God.
  • Pure Agnostic: God’s existence and non-existence are exactly equiprobable.
  • Weak Atheist: I do not know whether God exists but I’m inclined to be skeptical.
  • De-facto Atheist: I cannot know for certain but I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption that he is not there.
  • Strong Atheist: I am 100% sure that there is no God.
If ayone is interested I am a No 6 and No I haven't read the book

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:00 PM

i put myself at 2.5 position

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:02 PM

6.999999

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:08 PM

5.25

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:09 PM

I have red the book and i put myself at a 1.8 on the Dawkins scale. I like his scale, the bigger the number, the more destructive. Much like the Richter scale B)

Edited by Professor Buzzkill, 26 March 2014 - 08:10 PM.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:12 PM

I'm hoping for a good range of numbers.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:15 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 26 March 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

I have red the book and i put myself at a 1.8 on the Dawkins scale. I like his scale, the bigger the number, the more destructive. Much like the Richter scale B)

Lack of belief in a god does not equal more destructive.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:17 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 26 March 2014 - 08:15 PM, said:

Lack of belief in a god does not equal more destructive.

Sarcasm does not equal my opinion


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:19 PM

View PostProfessor Buzzkill, on 26 March 2014 - 08:17 PM, said:

Sarcasm does not equal my opinion

Sarcasm is not always apparent in text.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:20 PM

I'm a 6.9.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:43 PM

Alternating between 5 and 6, for the last decade or so.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:48 PM

Easy 6. Not quite a 7.


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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:48 PM

Pretty strong 5. Of course that depends on who your god is.

I reject your reality, and substitute my own! Mostly because yours is boring as hell.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:55 PM

I guess I would be a 1 with occasional dips into 2.

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Posted 26 March 2014 - 08:58 PM

Dawkins "scale" is far too self-congratulatory (with respect Dawkins' own beliefs) for me to consider using. Plus, it (and he) attempts to co-opt for atheism concepts and beliefs that might more readily be considered common to any non-theist, as well as being far too 'belief specific' to the point of falling into the trap of making fallacious assumptions.

Take, for example, his description of the "De-facto Atheist"

"I think God is very improbable and I live my life under the assumption he [God] is not there."

His language - especially the use of the masculine pronoun - is suggestive he is referring strcitly to the 'God' which is the creator deity of the Abrahamic religions. While those religions are very large, comprising the majority of the world's religious population, popularity is no indicator of truth. If Mr Dawkins wishes to consider an atheist as "someone who does not believe the Abrahamic 'God' exists", then he is making a reasonable assumption.

However, if we consider atheist as the antonym to theist, then the atheist is someone who does not believe a deity, or deities, exist - not specifically the deity of any particular religion. While an individual theist may only believe in the existence of one particular deity, the atheist has to deny the existence of any, and every, deity to earn the title.

Additionally, "living one's life in the assumption no deity exists" may apply to agnostics as easily as atheists. Since agnosticism is not atheism, then I do not see how that behaviour can define a "de-facto atheist".

Finally, while the agnostic might consider the likelihood of something divine existing or not existing as equi-probable, it does not follow the agnostic has to apply the same equi-probability to any deity specifically defined in religion.

I find Mr Dawkins guilty of attempting to 'redraw' the map of "theist-agnostic-atheist" - perhaps to grant his own [atheistic] beliefs a greater degree of 'rationality' than atheism actually warrants.

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