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#1    Chaldera

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 03:42 PM

Hi everyone. Just a little idea I had about the Punt civilisation...

http://www.en.wikipe...ki/Land_of_Punt

Judging by the fact that the only evidence we have of their existence is through Egyptian artifacts and a potential identification as the land of Put in the  Bible, is it possible that they were merely made up by the Egyptians as a sort of story to show off Egypt's success or as some sort of mythical civilisation which was later incorporated into the Bible by its writers as either some sort of allegory or else as a false belief?

I'll admit, I'm by no means an expert, and expect to be proven wrong. I just wish to learn more


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Posted 29 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

View PostChaldera, on 29 March 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Hi everyone. Just a little idea I had about the Punt civilisation...

http://www.en.wikipe...ki/Land_of_Punt

Judging by the fact that the only evidence we have of their existence is through Egyptian artifacts and a potential identification as the land of Put in the  Bible, is it possible that they were merely made up by the Egyptians as a sort of story to show off Egypt's success or as some sort of mythical civilisation which was later incorporated into the Bible by its writers as either some sort of allegory or else as a false belief?

I'll admit, I'm by no means an expert, and expect to be proven wrong. I just wish to learn more

That's not entirely true since amongst items that were brought back from the Land of Punt by the Egyptians were baboons, which have been traced genetically as having originated in the area of Eritrea and Ethiopia. This means that there is more to the identification of the Land of Punt than mere allegory or false belief.

Baboon mummy analysis reveals Eritrea and Ethiopia as location of Land of Punt

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 01:59 AM

it sounds a little too circumstantial to definitively locate Punt.
ancient Rome for instance had all kinds of wildlife brought in from Africa. so i would not assume that Punt is necessarily located where they sourced their baboons.


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Posted 30 March 2014 - 11:16 PM

Very interesting link, cormac. D'anka

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 11:53 PM

View PostEarl.Of.Trumps, on 30 March 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:

Very interesting link, cormac. D'anka

You're welcome.

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Posted 31 March 2014 - 01:25 PM

Thank you for replying aha. I admire your resourcefulness in finding that article, although I do wonder what drove the Egyptians to import these baboons


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 04:54 PM

Punt = Atlantis. Heck, why not? :P


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Posted 06 April 2014 - 11:04 PM

View PostPersonFromPorlock, on 01 April 2014 - 04:54 PM, said:

Punt = Atlantis. Heck, why not? :P
No, Punt = offensive failure.

Stargate = Atlantis.

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Posted 05 July 2014 - 02:38 PM

View PostChaldera, on 29 March 2014 - 03:42 PM, said:

Hi everyone. Just a little idea I had about the Punt civilisation...

http://www.en.wikipe...ki/Land_of_Punt

Judging by the fact that the only evidence we have of their existence is through Egyptian artifacts and a potential identification as the land of Put in the  Bible, is it possible that they were merely made up by the Egyptians as a sort of story to show off Egypt's success or as some sort of mythical civilisation which was later incorporated into the Bible by its writers as either some sort of allegory or else as a false belief?

I'll admit, I'm by no means an expert, and expect to be proven wrong. I just wish to learn more

Puntland is still shown on maps of Africa. It's in the actual Horn of Africa.

So I don't think it was an Egyptian invention.

There is absolutely no proof at all that human beings actually communicate.

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Posted 06 July 2014 - 01:59 PM

View Posttoyomotor, on 05 July 2014 - 02:38 PM, said:

Puntland is still shown on maps of Africa. It's in the actual Horn of Africa.

So I don't think it was an Egyptian invention.

The name "Puntland"originated in the 1990s only because The Autonomous Puntland State of Somalia came to existence only then.
Naturally, they have named the state after the land of punt, which archaeologists/ historians etc beleive is located some place along the east coast of africa, the most probable being the somalian coast.

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 01:25 AM

Punt is likely just ancient Egyptian shorthand/slang for another major trading center that they frequented... but apparently it was mainly just a verbal Egyptian thing only... too bad we can't figure out what everyone else around them called that particular trade center...

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