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#1    Lilly

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:15 AM

I just ran across this: http://nypost.com/20...led-holy-grail/

Hmmm...?

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:29 AM

Hmmm indeed...

It seems that the people who found it are certainly certain.
I'm reserved about it.

Good find on the article!!

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 11:57 AM

smells like an April's Fool to me.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:10 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 01 April 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

smells like an April's Fool to me.

That's what I thought as well. But...I can't seem to find any confirmation.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:11 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 01 April 2014 - 11:57 AM, said:

smells like an April's Fool to me.

I think I would put money on that....

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:19 PM

View PostLilly, on 01 April 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

That's what I thought as well. But...I can't seem to find any confirmation.
I think the sheer fact that these 'Historians' didn't have to fend off any attack rabbits is proof enough for me that is a hoax.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:27 PM

Caramba! If this is Holy Grail I imagine the rest of the Saloon - (Cenaculo, Cenacle).   Must has been a luxury this Holy Supper (or Last Supper).  If it were genuine it would be time for historians and theologians pay attention to the scholars who deny the poverty of the family of Jesus, the Christ. Scholars who, incidentally, are often ridiculed and despised by orthodox researchers, the called respectable academics, those who claim for themselves, the status of true scientists ...

Edited by Ligia Cabus, 01 April 2014 - 12:30 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:30 PM

Well... first off, unless I am way wrong... it wasn't Jesus' cup... it belonged to the person that ran the inn or what ever it was... It's not like he walked around with a 13 person place setting all the time...

So it would most likely look like an Inn's "dinnerware" - i.e. tough, serviceable and inexpensive... The goblet in the OP does not look like it fills this bill to me...

(Of course i've been wrong before)...

Edited by Taun, 01 April 2014 - 12:32 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:36 PM

The scientists admit the first 400 years of the cup’s history remain a mystery and they can’t prove the chalice ever actually touched Christ’s lips.

http://nypost.com/20...led-holy-grail/

They can prove nothing, considering the arabs did not conquer Jerusalem until around 638 ce, this cup, if not made in Taiwan! Could have been anybodies.

Hoax... I hope so, surely someone would not make this claim with no evidence at all.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 12:52 PM

The provenance of this grail is certainly questionable. Even after proper dating is accomplished and a chain of ownership established, we still have the problem of "did this ever touch the lips of Christ?"

It's the same problem of the Shroud of Turin or the first-century heel bone pierced by an iron nail: Perhaps legitimate artifacts of Jesus' time, but absolutely no evidence connecting such to Jesus directly.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:04 PM

you know. the inn where they had their supper probably just served him from the same cups everyone else before him drank from and then gathered his cup and washed it with the others (or not, not sure the clean habits).. then served the next group and passed it on.

It probably was destroyed with the other cups, if made from wood.. then burned when replaced.

I mean, how many inns/resteraunts et et save all their cups when they get new ones?

If you had an important dinner at Dennys (lets face it, at that time... the last supper was just an important dinner meeting between a group of pple.. important only to themselves)... and it changed your life, could you and your group go back to dennys one yr later or so and actually expect the same cups to be served to you that you drank from previously? Heck would they even be there, or would they have been dropped and replaced by then?

Edited by willowdreams, 01 April 2014 - 02:06 PM.

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:08 PM

so a $10,000 just to get a 10 second glimpse at it...

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 02:44 PM

View Postwillowdreams, on 01 April 2014 - 02:04 PM, said:

you know. the inn where they had their supper probably just served him from the same cups everyone else before him drank from and then gathered his cup and washed it with the others (or not, not sure the clean habits).. then served the next group and passed it on.

It probably was destroyed with the other cups, if made from wood.. then burned when replaced.

I mean, how many inns/resteraunts et et save all their cups when they get new ones?

If you had an important dinner at Dennys (lets face it, at that time... the last supper was just an important dinner meeting between a group of pple.. important only to themselves)... and it changed your life, could you and your group go back to dennys one yr later or so and actually expect the same cups to be served to you that you drank from previously? Heck would they even be there, or would they have been dropped and replaced by then?

Pilgrim (10 years later): "Inn Keeper! I am here to claim the most holy grail. That devine chalice that our Lord drank from at the Last Supper, which was held in this very room!"
Innkeeper: "Oh... Ummm... Why Sure! Ummm... Here it is! (grabbing a cup off of the shelf) I remember serving him myself! This is the very same cup... er... chalice!"
Pilgrim: "I must have it! It is a holy relic!"
Innkeeper: "Certainly! I can let you have it for a mere pitance of 200 shekels... After all I must be recompensed for the most holy of relics being taken from here!"
Pilgrim: "Yes! A bargin!"

a week later:
2nd Pilgrim: "Inn Keeper! I am here to claim the most holy grail."
Innkeeper: "I was expecting you! I have it right here (with all the others). A mere 250 shekels!"

Edited by Taun, 01 April 2014 - 02:45 PM.


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Posted 01 April 2014 - 03:23 PM

How can something from a 'legend' or a 'myth' ever be found, then  proven to be associated to Jesus?

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Posted 01 April 2014 - 03:52 PM

View PostLilly, on 01 April 2014 - 12:10 PM, said:

That's what I thought as well. But...I can't seem to find any confirmation.
the jesus i know wouldn't have drank from a jewel encrusted cup.





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