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#1    Still Waters

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 12:44 PM

The US city of Portland, Oregon, is dumping 38m gallons (143m litres) of water from its reservoir after a teenager was caught urinating into the water supply.

CCTV footage of the Mt Tabor reservoir captured the man urinating and two others attempting to scale the reservoir's fence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...canada-27069611

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 12:56 PM

This is, perhaps, one of the dopiest things I have heard about in  long while.  A 1/2 a cup of urine in 38 million gallons of water couldn't possibly affect the water in any way.  Especially when you consider all the animal waste that has to find its way into that open area.

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 03:16 PM

If they don't want it they should just ship it down to California.  After the drought they've been going through they won't mind a little p*** in thier water.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 03:40 PM

I heard about this yesterday.  Ridiculous and stupid.

Never mind the bird poop, the raccoon poop, the opossum poop, the fish poop, the decomposing fish and animal carcasses...that's all good!  But that kid had super powerful poison urine...must drain!

This rates very high on the waste and stupidity scale...farmers and people are rationing water but let just throw millions of gallons away....

What party runs this municipality?

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 06:25 PM

Probably wasn't the first kid to do it and certainly won't be the last.


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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:04 PM

And if they had done nothing, the litigation mad members of society would have had a field day suing over "pee water" and claiming they've been poisoned etc by it.
"In Catch-22 we suffer" should be on your money rather then "In God we Trust".

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Posted 18 April 2014 - 11:51 PM

View PostSir Wearer of Hats, on 18 April 2014 - 11:04 PM, said:

And if they had done nothing, the litigation mad members of society would have had a field day suing over "pee water" and claiming they've been poisoned etc by it.
"In Catch-22 we suffer" should be on your money rather then "In God we Trust".
If Portlanders are that squeamish over a little pollution then they'd better call it a day.  A few ounces of botulinum toxin yeah..but URINE?  They're a real bunch of manly men, aren't they?  :w00t:

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 12:19 AM

A little urine in the diet is a good thing.  And no, this time I'm not talking about golden showers or water sports.

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Posted 19 April 2014 - 01:24 AM

You're just talking the p*** now Yams

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:26 PM

The guy that authorized this needs to be fired and fired immediately.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 04:54 PM

Wow, so ridiculous... How can anyone with a brain or conscience waste so much? Wait, no one has those anymore.

I don't even waste a cup of water without feeling bad about it.

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Posted 21 April 2014 - 06:28 PM

What was wasteful about it? It's not like the water was destroyed, it was let back into the natural water cycle. I agree that they should have found a non-potable use for that water instead of just draining it off but the Pacific Northwest has enough water that 38m  gallons of water is a pittance.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 08:52 PM

View PostStill Waters, on 18 April 2014 - 12:44 PM, said:

The US city of Portland, Oregon, is dumping 38m gallons (143m litres) of water from its reservoir after a teenager was caught urinating into the water supply.

CCTV footage of the Mt Tabor reservoir captured the man urinating and two others attempting to scale the reservoir's fence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...canada-27069611

I've walked by this reservoir many times. It is an open air concrete basin. It has a 6 foot iron fence around it. It used to be that the gates were open and people could walk along the rim of the basin, but now they lock it, because....

Teens and other kids repeatedly threw trash in there. Some threw dead animals in there. Some dropped their feces in there. Some threw their dog's feces in there. All that crap started making a nice gunky layer along the bottom, and POed the population. So they locked the gates, but kids still regularly climb the fence and pee into it or toss tires into it, and whatnot. That is why they prosecute the people doing so, because to NOT prosecute would make it open season for other kids to toss stuff in there.

There was a plan to build a cover over the basin, but it was decided that it cost more to build the cover then to empty the basin two or three times a year into the near future.

The water from the reservoir goes directly from the basin to the taps of Portland, it is not filtered or treated after leaving the basin. So when the basin gets something in it, it is a big deal.

Also I don't think anyone considers that water wasted. The basin is like 1/16th of a mile long and 1/32nd of a mile wide, but just down the hill there is a river that is 1/2 a mile wide (the Willamette River), so water is not something people in Portland really worry about. About many times the water volume of the basin goes into the river whenever it rains....

The city annually uses about 33 Billion gallons, so the 38 million gallons is about 2.5 days of water for the city.

Edited by DieChecker, 22 April 2014 - 08:56 PM.

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 09:36 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 22 April 2014 - 08:52 PM, said:

I've walked by this reservoir many times. It is an open air concrete basin. It has a 6 foot iron fence around it. It used to be that the gates were open and people could walk along the rim of the basin, but now they lock it, because....

Teens and other kids repeatedly threw trash in there. Some threw dead animals in there. Some dropped their feces in there. Some threw their dog's feces in there. All that crap started making a nice gunky layer along the bottom, and POed the population. So they locked the gates, but kids still regularly climb the fence and pee into it or toss tires into it, and whatnot. That is why they prosecute the people doing so, because to NOT prosecute would make it open season for other kids to toss stuff in there.

There was a plan to build a cover over the basin, but it was decided that it cost more to build the cover then to empty the basin two or three times a year into the near future.

The water from the reservoir goes directly from the basin to the taps of Portland, it is not filtered or treated after leaving the basin. So when the basin gets something in it, it is a big deal.

Also I don't think anyone considers that water wasted. The basin is like 1/16th of a mile long and 1/32nd of a mile wide, but just down the hill there is a river that is 1/2 a mile wide (the Willamette River), so water is not something people in Portland really worry about. About many times the water volume of the basin goes into the river whenever it rains....

The city annually uses about 33 Billion gallons, so the 38 million gallons is about 2.5 days of water for the city.

That is all fine, diechecker but dumping 38 million gallons of water because a cup and a half of human urine was dumped in it ts so laughably overreacting that only a nut would consider it a rational reaction to the event.  Should we dump every swimming pool in America because a kid pees in it?  Of course not and why?   Because the amount of urine from a kid peeing is so miniscule when when mixed with even a 38K gallon pool, that it isn't measurable much less significantly affecting the water quality.  

Second, urine is a sterile liquid when it leaves the bladder, unless the person has a UTI,  It may pick up some bacteria from the external parts of the genitalia but rain water has far more contaminants so should the dump the reservoir when it rains?

If they dump the contents of the reservoir a couple of times a year and this was about that time then why didn't they say that?

Lastly, the river may be a couple of miles wide but it doesn't go directly to the taps.  That river water is processed and then stored in the reservoir so the cost of pumping, filtering and chemically treating 38 million gallons of river water just got flushed down the drain (pun intended) because of a pint and a half of urine. If that cost is minimal anyways, as you and slave2fate have suggested, then the water bill for the people of Portland should be pennies a year per person, no?  A quick check shows that isn't the case, though, with an expected average of $50/month per household being suggested by the local real estate agents.  So $600 a year per household and they dump 38 million gallons of processed water over a pint and a half of pee?

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Posted 22 April 2014 - 10:08 PM

"Oh ****, I see dust in my glass of water. Better pour it down the drain and get a new glass. [...] They did WHAT? They dumped 38 million gallons back into the Earth's ecosystem because someone peed in it? Idiots..."

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