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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:44 PM

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Late yesterday the news broke that House Speaker John Boehner had mocked his House Republican colleagues for inaction on immigration reform, mimicking them as follows: “Ohhhh. Don’t make me do this. Ohhhh. This is too hard.”

This morning, Boehner’s quotes are starting to get wide circulation. So it’s worth noting their real significance to the immigration debate: He has now effectively admitted that the real obstacle to solving the immigration problem is House Republicans.

This runs counter to the endlessly repeated claim that House Republicans won’t act only because they can’t trust Obama. Here’s video of Boehner:

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hmmm, I could have told you that ages ago.... from 1981 on in fact...

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:49 PM

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."-Ronald Reagan

it was siad in 1981, and it is still relevant today

Edited by aztek, 25 April 2014 - 04:50 PM.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:56 PM

This story is only talking about comments made concerning immigration reform.  But yeah, what Regan said.


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Posted 25 April 2014 - 04:57 PM

View Postaztek, on 25 April 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."-Ronald Reagan

it was siad in 1981, and it is still relevant today
See how well that panned out :tu:
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Posted 25 April 2014 - 05:02 PM

Ohh look politicians bashing each other and a biased journalist to go with it.

How shocking

Edited by spartan max2, 25 April 2014 - 05:02 PM.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:09 PM

View Postaztek, on 25 April 2014 - 04:49 PM, said:

"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem."-Ronald Reagan

it was siad in 1981, and it is still relevant today
Yes because then he got his pen out and govt spending went through the roof.   Oh but Reagan said something so he's exonerated then.  Derp.

"GOP is the problem" isn't "government is the problem".   The GOP was the solution according to Reagan.  According to Boehner, it's the problem.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:17 PM

Seeing how i disagree with most of what Boehner does then perhaps the GOP is doing something right.

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 08:39 PM

Obama is deporting illegals at an unprecedented rate, and Boehner is crying about the GOP's inactive acquiescence.  Looks more like it's Boehner vs. the status quo to me.  

But, and especially here, I'm sure the GOP-friendly spin will be all it takes to primp this up real cute too.  At least McCain still agrees with him right?  "They're all God's children."

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Posted 25 April 2014 - 10:04 PM

View PostYamato, on 25 April 2014 - 08:09 PM, said:

Yes because then he got his pen out and govt spending went through the roof.   Oh but Reagan said something so he's exonerated then.  Derp.

"GOP is the problem" isn't "government is the problem".   The GOP was the solution according to Reagan.  According to Boehner, it's the problem.
And which president was it that granted the biggest immunity to ilegal immigrants?


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Posted 26 April 2014 - 11:16 AM

What action is the GOP suppose to take exactly? Is he suggesting we follow the dems plan?

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 11:38 AM

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What action is the GOP suppose to take exactly? Is he suggesting we follow the dems plan?

Ah, one who noticed the problem, which happens to be (as with most issues), that the Reps have no plan but saying no. And if one comes up with one it gets nixed by one or more of the factions of the party.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 12:22 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 26 April 2014 - 11:38 AM, said:

Ah, one who noticed the problem, which happens to be (as with most issues), that the Reps have no plan but saying no. And if one comes up with one it gets nixed by one or more of the factions of the party.

Yeah, we call that checks and balances. Why would the GOP come up with a plan? Even if by some miracle it made it to 0bamas desk, he'd just veto it anyway. Why waste the time.

Besides, we already have a immigration plan. Its just not being enforced.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 12:30 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 26 April 2014 - 12:22 PM, said:

Yeah, we call that checks and balances. Why would the GOP come up with a plan? Even if by some miracle it made it to 0bamas desk, he'd just veto it anyway. Why waste the time.

Besides, we already have a immigration plan. Its just not being enforced.

Because the GOP has the majority in Congress where laws are made? Just as an example. You either go along with what somebody else cooks up or you make your own, really simple. Not getting voted for where it matters is no reason to retire to the sulking corner and throw "NO-tantrums". That is not checks and balances, that is behaving like a 5 year old kid who does not get the candy at the supermarket....with the difference that the kid, if it does not start behaving real fast gets sent to the room (or worse).

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 12:46 PM

How is saying no not a check on power? I thinks its amazing that people think its the governments job to just continualy pass legislation, and that anything that gets in the way of that somehow is a bad thing.




Like I said, there already is a plan, its just not being enforced. Why should we the people listen to either side when neither seem to even be able to go by the laws already in place?

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 12:54 PM

View Postpreacherman76, on 26 April 2014 - 12:46 PM, said:

How is saying no not a check on power? I thinks its amazing that people think its the governments job to just continualy pass legislation, and that anything that gets in the way of that somehow is a bad thing.




Like I said, there already is a plan, its just not being enforced. Why should we the people listen to either side when neither seem to even be able to go by the laws already in place?

You mean the Rubio plan? That is as dead as Saint Peter. The ghost still wavers around occasionally.

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