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#1    Midyin

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 01:56 PM

Ok, so is it me or has the Illuminati become a game of "8 steps to Kevin Bacon"?
Seriously, they seem to be behind everything. The Reptilian agenda, school shootings, the grey, the NWO, false flag attacks, Chemtrails, the Georgia Guid stones, fluoride, HARRP, almost every Cryptid, lymes disease, and everything in between..

oh, and keep in mind they also supposedly have agents on the payroll to troll forums like this to mislead the rest of us.. lol


At some point "The Illuminati" became the fit all answer to the question of "Why would our Government do that?" The same way "God works in mysterious ways"  is the fit all answer to any question that may lead to disbelief.. XD

Edited by Midyin, 27 April 2014 - 01:57 PM.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 02:18 PM

If you believe the CTers, this is the most peaceful planet of rainbow farting unicorns in the entire galaxy and it's only the _________ (fill in the blank) that are doing all of the bad stuff.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 02:34 PM

It's really interchangeable with the International Jewish Conspiracy, and most of the same characters are involved.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

- Philip K. Dick.


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:19 PM

View PostAdmiral Rhubarb, on 27 April 2014 - 02:34 PM, said:

It's really interchangeable with the International Jewish Conspiracy, and most of the same characters are involved.
Anyone with more money than us right?


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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:48 PM

Yes, the Illuminati, along with Big Foot, aliens, and Obama, are responsible for all bad things. The boogey man retired and is now living in Florida, in disguise, of course, and using an alias, B.G. Mann.


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 01:42 AM

Fear creates paranoid people, any group can become the target of the blame.
I'm not saying there aren't secret and not so secret groups out there,good and bad, even some called the Illuminati.  
I'm sure they all wish that were as powerful and influencial as the conspiracy theorists would like us to believe!


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:31 PM

Confirmed list of Illuminati members:
The Rothschild family
Everyone in a position of governmental power
Everyone who has security clearance you don't
Everyone with more money than you
Everyone you don't like
Everyone other than you
You (you just don't realize it yet)

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 09:46 PM

View Posttheotherguy, on 28 April 2014 - 09:31 PM, said:

Confirmed list of Illuminati members:
The Rothschild family
Everyone in a position of governmental power
Everyone who has security clearance you don't
Everyone with more money than you
Everyone you don't like
Everyone other than you
You (you just don't realize it yet)
Cool, so if I'm one of them that means I'm safe right?... XD


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:03 PM

In all seriousness,

What I DO believe

Governmental bodies regularly meet in secret
Major political and economic families are privy to the meetings
These secret meetings develop plans for the social and economic future
The plans are kept secret even as they are being put in place

What I DON'T believe

Governmental bodies are being directed by a small group of people
The plans are inherently harmful to humanity or any group of people
The governmental bodies are in contact with aliens
The people at these meetings want everybody who is not one of them to die
The plans are designed to oppress and  demoralize lower-class citizens

So basically, powerful people meet in secret to make long-term plans, but while they don't exactly welcome ordinary people, they are not trying to make their lives any worse, either.

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Conspiracy theorists are created by the government to distract us from what they're really doing!!!! Or not.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:56 AM

View Posttheotherguy, on 28 April 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:


What I DON'T believe

Governmental bodies are being directed by a small group of people
The plans are inherently harmful to humanity or any group of people
The governmental bodies are in contact with aliens
The people at these meetings want everybody who is not one of them to die
The plans are designed to oppress and  demoralize lower-class citizens

So basically, powerful people meet in secret to make long-term plans, but while they don't exactly welcome ordinary people, they are not trying to make their lives any worse, either.
Well, i think they're at best completely indifferent to ordinary people, and you could well construct a case that they are (or the powerful Business interests who are the real power behind the throne are) trying to make  the lives of ordinary people worse, by working as hard as they can to make it easy for these powerful Business interests to transfer jobs to lands far away, because it's more "efficient" (i.e. cheaper), and establish and then exploit monopolies that the ordinary People have no choice but to use; and surely the way that Governments (or some Governments in particular, particularly the American one) are always so very keen to promote wars, which nearly always have some economic or strategic interest behind them, and are never to do with "human rights" or "freedom", are they. So I think that really, you could construct a case to argue that that is indeed what they do, and that it is deliberate.

If, as it seems, we are in the process of becoming a totalitarian society in which the state apparatus is all-powerful, the ethics most important for the survival of the true, free, human individual would be: cheat, lie, evade, fake it, be elsewhere, forge documents, build improved electronic gadgets in your garage that’ll outwit the gadgets used by the authorities.

- Philip K. Dick.


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Posted 29 April 2014 - 06:48 PM

View PostMidyin, on 27 April 2014 - 01:56 PM, said:

Ok, so is it me or has the Illuminati become a game of "8 steps to Kevin Bacon"?
Seriously, they seem to be behind everything. The Reptilian agenda, school shootings, the grey, the NWO, false flag attacks, Chemtrails, the Georgia Guid stones, fluoride, HARRP, almost every Cryptid, lymes disease, and everything in between..

oh, and keep in mind they also supposedly have agents on the payroll to troll forums like this to mislead the rest of us.. lol


At some point "The Illuminati" became the fit all answer to the question of "Why would our Government do that?" The same way "God works in mysterious ways"  is the fit all answer to any question that may lead to disbelief.. XD

I wouldn't dismiss the idea that the world is run by an elite group.  I've just never seen any evidence that they exist.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 07:45 PM

View Postzoser, on 29 April 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

I wouldn't dismiss the idea that the world is run by an elite group.  I've just never seen any evidence that they exist.

I share this opinion (to a degree) and I add further that it would be extremely difficult for such groups to control world events to the degree most conspiracy theorist want to believe. The fact is that their are an exponential amount of variables that factor into any one event in history, and each of those events subtly or not so subtly affects the next series of events. Controlling people could be compared to controlling the weather, something with millions, if not billions, of variables interacting in such a way to create even the simplest weather system. Rivers, forest, marshlands, mountains, the list goes on. Now apply that logic to people and add the fact that every individual on this planet is unpredictable and you can see the difficulty.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:34 AM

On the other hand, somebody did write "Illuminati" in the dust on my rear windshield once. All of my friends denied doing it, and my car was in a public place, so it could have been some random person messing around. Still...

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Conspiracy theorists are created by the government to distract us from what they're really doing!!!! Or not.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 01:41 AM

Don't forget that every bit of music you listen to has subliminal messaging in it. Video games are secretly inducting children into the military. And the education system is intentionally creating mindless drones. Man, I love living on this planet. It's always so interesting.

The world is dumb enough, don't add to it!

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 07:09 AM

View Postzoser, on 29 April 2014 - 06:48 PM, said:

I wouldn't dismiss the idea that the world is run by an elite group.  I've just never seen any evidence that they exist.
Neither would I and nor would I expect to

View PostDecoNoir, on 29 April 2014 - 07:45 PM, said:

I share this opinion (to a degree) and I add further that it would be extremely difficult for such groups to control world events to the degree most conspiracy theorist want to believe. The fact is that their are an exponential amount of variables that factor into any one event in history, and each of those events subtly or not so subtly affects the next series of events. Controlling people could be compared to controlling the weather, something with millions, if not billions, of variables interacting in such a way to create even the simplest weather system. Rivers, forest, marshlands, mountains, the list goes on. Now apply that logic to people and add the fact that every individual on this planet is unpredictable and you can see the difficulty.

I agree with your post ( to a degree . In most ways total control can only be achieved through force.  However, in many ways peoples lives are already under "control"  to some extent by the monetary system. .And in many ways can be easier to manipulate than the weather.



Edited by jugoso, 30 April 2014 - 07:15 AM.

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