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#1    aka CAT

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 08:30 AM

The dark legacy of Carlos Castaneda BY ROBERT MARSHALL.
Dubbed the “Godfather of the New Age” by Time magazine, Castaneda made
a fortune by duping people into believing his fiction was true.  For the record,
which is documented in the article above, he did not succeed in cheating death.
He did, consequent to his becoming terminally ill with cancer of the liver, con
his closest followers out of the remainder of their lives.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:53 AM

Theme Song

It's the same kind of story
That seems to come down from long ago
Two friends having coffee together
When something flies by their window
It might be out on that lawn
Which is wide, at least half of a playing field
Because there's no explaining what your imagination
Can make you see and feel

Seems like a dream
They got me hypnotized

Now it's not a meaningless question
To ask if they've been and gone
I remember a talk about North
Carolina and a strange, strange pond
You see the sides were like glass
In the thick of a forest without a road
And if any man's ever made that land
Then I think it would've showed

Seems like a dream
They got me hypnotized

They say there's a place down in Mexico
Where a man can fly over mountains and hills
And he don't need an airplane or some kind of engine
And he never will
Now you know it's a meaningless question
To ask if those stories are right
'Cause what matters most is the feeling
You get when you're hypnotized

Seems like a dream
They got me hypnotized

Edited by aka CAT, 11 May 2014 - 09:57 AM.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:55 AM

Long ago I read the first two Castaneda books. I was intrigued by them and put off at the same time. There was the want to believe and at the same time thinking this is BS. It didn't take me long to decide on the BS.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:02 AM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 11 May 2014 - 10:55 AM, said:

...It didn't take me long to decide on the BS.


Me too. The New Age 'mumbo-jumbo' is best buried IMO.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:22 AM

Now only if they'd bury the archaic BS too.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 12:38 PM

I recall some of my friends completely falling for Castenada. I read the books as well, but took them to be stories. Somewhere around that time some movies were made such as Altered States. I was not surprised when Castenada admitted that he failed his work and his degree was revoked.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:42 PM

I started to read one of Castenada's books because someone recommended it to me many years ago.  I thought it was utter rubbish and put it down before making it past the 3rd chapter, never felt "inspired" to look at his work again.  Therefore any opinions I have on the "New Age" have absolutely nothing to do with anything he has claimed to have done.  I wonder why that is at stake or issue here?  The new age encompasses so many aspects of spiritual discovery and personal journeys, many are dead end roads but those which bear fruit are far from dead to many also.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 01:53 PM

Castenada was aloof.  IMHO, his 'adventures' wouldn't have made good fiction either.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:11 PM

I read a few chapters out of one of his books and I had a hard time accepting that some people actually took his hallucinogenic ramblings seriously.

I figured him to be a fraud after the first few pages and my suspicions were repeatedly confirmed.
This is the problem with new age (or rather the new 'dark' age) is that some people will readily accept something just because it sounds nice.

I have to admit, there was a chapter in one book were Castenada was writing about one of his supposed hallucinatory trips and met two talking lizards. It was hilarious.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:48 PM

Ryu said:

This is the problem with new age (or rather the new 'dark' age) is that some people will readily accept something just because it sounds nice.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 02:56 PM

Wow "the new age" didn't last very long so what comes next,or are we out of "ages", maybe old age because that's where we are all heading.

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Posted 11 May 2014 - 05:21 PM

Much more to the New Age than Castenada.

Not sure he was more than a peripheral writer.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:05 PM

All,

What I liked about everyone's posts were the ways that each of you demonstrated

critical thinking vital to the individual through out his/her life time.  Your views of
cults as much as the occult similarly interest me.  Much can be said about both.

View PostBorder Collie, on 11 May 2014 - 05:21 PM, said:

Much more to the New Age than Castenada.
Yes, but none other than he was coined "the Godfather of the New Age"--
an age wherein fact/fiction, or truth/falsehood are, apparently, as secondary
to authors' and publisher's profit line as such are to the larger agenda served
by the controlled media.  In any case, every age is as trendy as is the present
ever new while still contingent as portentous.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 09:31 PM

the fact that those people went missing after he died, and are still missing, is by far the most disturbing. seriously unsettling and cult like.


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Posted 12 May 2014 - 02:10 AM

View Postseaturtlehorsesnake, on 11 May 2014 - 09:31 PM, said:

the fact that those people went missing after he died, and are still missing, is by far the most disturbing. seriously unsettling and cult like.
It's just like a cult leader to want to take all of his followers with him.
Castaneda was no less a cold hearted ego maniac.
All of it is just as unsettling as I found a friend's interest in his literature.
It was for being mystified by one that I took interest in the other
all while marveling at what would newly pass for non-fiction.
That the ploy is less novel (no pun intended) today
hopefully makes such scams less profitable.





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