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#1    BlackHole

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:28 PM

Although I am a believer that aliens are here, I am troubled by a question:  Why do we not yet have a photograph or video that is so clear and convincing that there can be no further doubt?


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:30 PM

Anti-gravity propulsion interference.

Apparently.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:36 PM

And, as has been said a thousand times before, no one will trust videos or photos in this day and age.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:46 PM

View PostSweetpumper, on 14 May 2014 - 04:36 PM, said:

And, as has been said a thousand times before, no one will trust videos or photos in this day and age.

Unless they are clear and the raw version can be provided. Even a mediocre observer can distinguish online between real or fake videos. The moving fordward question is; will this oberver be impartial and honest with himself after reviewing?

Edited by qxcontinuum, 14 May 2014 - 04:46 PM.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:53 PM

View Postqxcontinuum, on 14 May 2014 - 04:46 PM, said:

Unless they are clear and the raw version can be provided.

Would that do it for you?

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 04:59 PM

View PostBlackHole, on 14 May 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

Although I am a believer that aliens are here, I am troubled by a question:  Why do we not yet have a photograph or video that is so clear and convincing that there can be no further doubt?

I think the reason why is because we aren't being visited by alien craft.Think of how many reports we have had since the  Kenneth Arnold 1947 sighting but still we are waiting for some irrefutable evidence after 60+ years.I used to believe ufos were alien in origin, like you but a realistic look at the evidence doesn't suggest it.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:12 PM

View PostBlackHole, on 14 May 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

Although I am a believer that aliens are here, I am troubled by a question:  Why do we not yet have a photograph or video that is so clear and convincing that there can be no further doubt?

They are rather shy of the camera, something to do with their butts looking bigger...caused by the pull of earth's stronger gravity

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Edited by seeder, 14 May 2014 - 05:16 PM.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:53 PM

View PostBlackHole, on 14 May 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

Although I am a believer that aliens are here,

Joking aside, Can I ask what actually makes you believe aliens are here?

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:56 PM

I could throw a pinball in the air and it would look exactly like what I've seen. The data for the photo would all be raw and the photo untouched. You can't trust any of it.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:08 PM

View Postseeder, on 14 May 2014 - 05:53 PM, said:

Joking aside, Can I ask what actually makes you believe aliens are here?
Wishful thinking and fantasy.

Attention please.  There are no ET's visiting the planet Terra.  The likelihood of ET's visiting Terra are so small it's not realistically worth considering.  It's fantasy.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:29 PM

View PostBlackHole, on 14 May 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

Although I am a believer that aliens are here, I am troubled by a question:  Why do we not yet have a photograph or video that is so clear and convincing that there can be no further doubt?

Because we've never been visited, that's why.
Believing something doesn't make it true.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 07:10 PM

What we need is a video or better yet, videos of a craft with a clear structure flying on a controlled path for several minutes being continuously seen and tracked by multiple independent witnesses (with reasonably consistent descriptions) and then flying off into the stratosphere or disappearing.

After sixty years we still don't have any evidence of this quality. We only have random isolated photos and videos of UFO's appearing and disappearing. Despite many detailed reports of elaborate spacecraft, UFO's in videos are rarely more than a dot.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

View PostBlackHole, on 14 May 2014 - 04:28 PM, said:

Although I am a believer that aliens are here, I am troubled by a question:  Why do we not yet have a photograph or video that is so clear and convincing that there can be no further doubt?
If the pics and clips of the supposed UFOs were clear and sharp, it would be seen without any doubt that the
"UFO" that was photographed or filmed was not a space craft of extraterrestrial origin.
BTW, search results today for "UFO":
Google   : 46.200.000
YouTube:   6.080.000

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:25 PM

What's that in the sky? It looks like a rock, it must be THE ZOSER SIGNAL!


Jesting aside, I asked much the same question and got much the same answer, we're not getting a convincing or at least inarguable, Exhibit A because there's nothing irrefutable to show.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:32 PM

Proof will not come in pictures, moving or not.

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