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#1    RavenHawk

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:23 PM

On Sunday, Ann Coulter parodied Michelle Obamaís #BringBackOurGirls and it brought on much ridicule from the Left as it backfired.  But few realized that she made her point that tweetting is not foreign policy.  Hash tags and selfies do nothing to free captives from Islamic fanatics.  Such an outburst from the First Lady only presents a position of weakness and damages our image and prestige (if we have any left).  This leads to a darker, deeper under meaning telling the aggressor that we are a victim and sets a dangerous precedence.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:31 PM

I disagree.  Michelle Obama doesn't set foreign policy, so her 'tweeting' about this incident only raises awareness.  Something that she has every right to do.

Ann Coulter makes a good point, but she is off base here.

Had the President tweeted, then she'd have a better point.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 05:56 PM

View Postsupervike, on 14 May 2014 - 05:31 PM, said:

I disagree.  Michelle Obama doesn't set foreign policy, so her 'tweeting' about this incident only raises awareness.  Something that she has every right to do.
That is correct, she does not set foreign policy and should not set herself into the position of doing so.  That usurps her husbandís authority.

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Ann Coulter makes a good point, but she is off base here.
I donít know if she is off base.  Itís just because she is Ann Coulter.

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Had the President tweeted, then she'd have a better point.
Because he hasnít stated that what Michelle has done is counter to the position of the Administration has more or less approved of the tweet as if he had done it himself.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:08 PM

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My opinion of this will not be very popular...I hope for the safe return of these kids to their families...but the tweeting thing...I think it's stupid

This "tweeting #Bringbackourgirls" is so a bunch of couch potatoes and self indulgent spoiled brats can feel good about themselves.  It will do zero to rescue them.

"It raises awareness"...so what?  It's not like everyone doesn't know about it...the real question is...what is being done to remedy the situation and what steps are being taken to assure that it doesn't happen again?

Tweeting and re-tweeting is not going to get them released...do you think this insane kidnapper cares what the rich kids have to say on their I-phones?  "Oh...gee...Michele Obama says I am a bad man...better let them kids go now"...yeah...right.

I don't see it as setting policy or anything so grand...to me it looks like that crap they did with the warlord Kony a year or two ago...yeah...that sure got him caught.../sarcasm.  It is so lazy, self indulgent, dumbed down and distracted people can feel good about themselves as the fire off a tweet and then tell everyone what they bought at the mall or had for lunch...

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:21 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 14 May 2014 - 06:08 PM, said:

Well...

My opinion of this will not be very popular...I hope for the safe return of these kids to their families...but the tweeting thing...I think it's stupid

This "tweeting #Bringbackourgirls" is so a bunch of couch potatoes and self indulgent spoiled brats can feel good about themselves.  It will do zero to rescue them.

"It raises awareness"...so what?  It's not like everyone doesn't know about it...the real question is...what is being done to remedy the situation and what steps are being taken to assure that it doesn't happen again?

Tweeting and re-tweeting is not going to get them released...do you think this insane kidnapper cares what the rich kids have to say on their I-phones?  "Oh...gee...Michele Obama says I am a bad man...better let them kids go now"...yeah...right.

I don't see it as setting policy or anything so grand...to me it looks like that crap they did with the warlord Kony a year or two ago...yeah...that sure got him caught.../sarcasm.  It is so lazy, self indulgent, dumbed down and distracted people can feel good about themselves as the fire off a tweet and then tell everyone what they bought at the mall or had for lunch...

Excellent points.  It's all self-indulgent bull****.  I'm sure if you asked everyone who sent a similar tweet they'd say that they "made a difference".

I'm reminded of this little ditty from a couple of weeks ago:

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Seriously?  This is what the State Department of the United States of America considers diplomacy these days.  If only Neville Chamberlain had had a Twitter account Hitler would have been cowering in his boots.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:30 PM

Twitter has destroyed so much by its very existence so untangle your panties and move on.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:42 PM

No but it puts pressure on the Nigerians to do something, with so many people know what has happened, The Nigerians can't hide away what they do


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:52 PM

View PostYes_Man, on 14 May 2014 - 06:42 PM, said:

No but it puts pressure on the Nigerians to do something, with so many people know what has happened, The Nigerians can't hide away what they do

Do you honestly think this guy gives a jumping jack **** pile of horse **** about Twitter?  #yourefoolingyourself

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:53 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 14 May 2014 - 05:56 PM, said:

That is correct, she does not set foreign policy and should not set herself into the position of doing so.  That usurps her husband's authority.


I don't know if she is off base.  It's just because she is Ann Coulter.


Because he hasn't stated that what Michelle has done is counter to the position of the Administration has more or less approved of the tweet as if he had done it himself.


There is no usurping of anyones power.  She made a tweet saying to bring back a bunch of girls that were kidnapped by a extreme regime.  Where exactly does that 'cross the line'.

Why do you feel the First Lady shouldn't have the right to freedom of speech?


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 06:58 PM

I agree, tweeting seems a waste of time...

However, this is really less about the tweeting, and MUCH MUCH more about doing whatever one can to put the Obama's in a negative light.

Ann Coulter makes a career out of it, as is her free right.

But, to condemn or applaud something SOLELY because they are liberal or conservative is sickening.  This country deserves what it gets if we keep on those rails.


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 07:35 PM

Now if taking the girls were done in the U.S.A. ...... Oh heck some one would make a movie about it ! :whistle:

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 07:53 PM

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:02 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 14 May 2014 - 06:08 PM, said:

I don't see it as setting policy or anything so grand...
I agree with what you say.  However, the points you make are how policy is being set.  It points out how we are incapable of doing anything that we have to rely on the wife of the President to initiate something.  Trying something and failing in the world’s eye is one thing but to do something that won’t accomplish a thing (more for the show) is total failure and complete weakness in the world’s eye.  It sends a bad message.  It is the actions of a community instigator, …er organizer – getting others to do his job.  It is the actions of someone that knows he has no power over the situation and he reverts to the old Rules for Radicals.

View Postsupervike, on 14 May 2014 - 06:53 PM, said:

There is no usurping of anyones power.  She made a tweet saying to bring back a bunch of girls that were kidnapped by a extreme regime.  Where exactly does that 'cross the line'.
You must not be married??  A wife always usurps the husband’s authority.  :whistle:   That’s the nature of the beast.  But that isn’t exactly what crosses the line.  If Barack had issued an EO (or whatever) to try social media to attack the Islamic terrorist group Boko Haram and then having Michelle come up with doing the tweet, that would be fine.  Does anyone understand basic leadership principles anymore?  I don’t mean community organizing.  Or even if Solange Knowles (i.e. Joe Q Public) had initiated a tweet, that would be different because there are no ties to the Administration.  Personally, I think if you send Solange after Abubakar Shekau, those girls would be back real quick.

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Why do you feel the First Lady shouldn't have the right to freedom of speech?
Who said I didn’t?  But being the First Lady carries an obligation or responsibility to follow the President’s lead.

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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:05 PM

View PostRavenHawk, on 14 May 2014 - 09:02 PM, said:


You must not be married??  A wife always usurps the husband’s authority.  :whistle:   That’s the nature of the beast.  

LOL.

Yeah, I've been married for far too long to not know that!!  Maybe I'm just trying to live in denial... :cry: :tu:


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Posted 14 May 2014 - 09:22 PM

And like every good Twitter campaign, this one has been turned against the First Lady.

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