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Wormholes could send messages through time

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#1    Waspie_Dwarf

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 04:36 PM

Skinny wormholes could send messages through time


New Scientist said:

Like some bizarre form of optical fibre, a long, thin wormhole might let you send messages through time using pulses of light.

Predicted by Einstein's general theory of relativity, wormholesPosted Image are tunnels connecting two points in space-time. If something could traverse one, it would open up intriguing possibilities, such as time travel and instant communications.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:34 PM

So you send a fiber optic line back to a distant ancestor to get them to do (or not do) something... Someone else sees the end of the optic line just hanging in air, and blinking a light... "Demons!"
"A Witch!"... Your ancestor is burned at the stake and/or hung, you cease to exist, and therefore never send the message, therefore your ancestor is never killed....

or alternatively:

You send the line back to yourself, to give yourself some lottery numbers (or or do something else I suppose)... Your earlier self sees the line, manages to read/understand the message:
Earlier Self: "You want me to what?"
Later Self: "Buy a lottery ticket on May 22nd use these numbers......... Okay?"
Earlier Self: "No really! Who is this? Bob is this you? Are you messin' with me?"...
Later Self: "No No... This is me.. Uh... You.. .Uh.. Us... I'm just in your future!"
Earlier Self (making a raspberry sound): "Yeah Right. Say this wire thingy might make a good fishing line." Yank...

Actually Waspie, the article was pretty cool...

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:45 PM

Taun's examples are great, but if the earlier self won the lottery he wouldn't need to send that message to his past self, he'd already have the money.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:46 PM

If this were possible would we not be receiving messages from the future. Or would we not receive anything until we invented it.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:48 PM

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 21 May 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

If this were possible would we not be receiving messages from the future. Or would we not receive anything until we invented it.

Time travel paradoxes, don't you just love them.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 05:56 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 21 May 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Time travel paradoxes, don't you just love them.

They are fun.

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Posted 21 May 2014 - 07:32 PM

View PostWaspie_Dwarf, on 21 May 2014 - 05:48 PM, said:

Time travel paradoxes, don't you just love them.

Perhaps wormholes can only be between alternate timelines, thus avoiding the paradoxes.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 04:07 PM

In theory, there are both time-like, and space-like paths through a wormhole. Near-instantaneous communications in a single time domain might be possible. Since wormholes are thought to be ephemeral, perhaps a packet system, something like that used on the internet could be employed. A tiny piece of a message is sent through one wormhole, the next piece through another, and so one. The pieces are then reassembled at the receiving end.


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Posted 22 May 2014 - 04:40 PM

Can there be worm holes without worms?

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Posted 25 May 2014 - 12:48 AM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 22 May 2014 - 04:40 PM, said:

Can there be worm holes without worms?

View PostThe Silver Thong, on 21 May 2014 - 05:46 PM, said:

If this were possible would we not be receiving messages from the future. Or would we not receive anything until we invented it.

Perhaps. Mankind didnt invent worm holes or the speed of light so its possible that events in time are being broadcast by nature, so only natural that we might be recieving them.



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Posted 25 May 2014 - 08:24 AM

Nice... what if it's sorta symbiosis between influences of the past and future? If both past and future are in a state of constant change and not static still in their "freezed time"?

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Posted 26 May 2014 - 07:05 PM

Transition from a linear to an exponential growth of human knowledge is believed to have occurred, and knowledge is currently doubling about every twelve months. Does this argue that solution to the complex issue of time travel will have occurred sometime in the distant future? If so, where are the artifacts? Or, were we smart enough in the future to not the tamper with the past? Or, do we even have a future? Paradoxes, indeed.


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Posted 26 May 2014 - 07:12 PM

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Transition from a linear to an exponential growth of human knowledge is believed to have occurred, and knowledge is currently doubling about every twelve months. Does this argue that solution to the complex issue of time travel will have occurred sometime in the distant future? If so, where are the artifacts? Or, were we smart enough in the future to not the tamper with the past? Or, do we even have a future? Paradoxes, indeed.
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Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:24 PM

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Posted 27 May 2014 - 01:39 AM

If it were possible to send information through a wormhole, how would you direct it to whom you wanted to receive that information?

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