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Contrails, "Chemtrails," and Global Warming

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#16    regeneratia

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 07:15 PM

Well over a month ago, I did something that is said to eliminate the chemtrails. I don't know if it works, still assessing it. However, in a sky normally riddled with tic-tac-toe chemtrail designs, I have seen only two chemtrails in that well-over-a-month. One was in a state of near total destruction or dissipation. The other had just been done.

It could be the weather. It could be the season. I think the winter skies will be the real determination of whether the chemtrail eliminator really works.

Also the clouds have been far more what I grew up seeing, rather than the strange cloud designs of recent years. Now I remind you, I grew up in W. Kansas, where the sky was all we really had to look at.  I have watched weather systems my entire 53 years. My farm family's eyes were contantly on the sky. We could see weather systems coming and going for around 40 miles. If we were on a hill at the time, even further than that.
Don't tell me that I don't know what I am looking at.

Edited by regeneratia, 08 June 2014 - 07:20 PM.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:16 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 08 June 2014 - 07:15 PM, said:

Don't tell me that I don't know what I am looking at.
I`m sure that you know what you are looking at but I think you do not understand what you are looking at. I mean in relation to
contrails.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 08:42 PM

View Posttoast, on 08 June 2014 - 08:16 PM, said:

I`m sure that you know what you are looking at but I think you do not understand what you are looking at. I mean in relation to
contrails.

And I am sure you are the one that can make me understand that? Not likely. Not because you cannot nor will not. But because you are faceless, nameless, and lack real integrity in my real eyes.
Anyone can put anything out on the internet. I am aware of that. I rely on real experience and real solid information, none that can be provided by this media.

I recognize the possiblity of water vapor. However, I have saved some snow from winter. Should have it analyzed sometime.

I have a trick, a technique, I use to tell truth from fiction. I have not used it with chemtrails. Perhaps it is time I did.

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 12:29 AM

Q. 1 Regeneratia, have you noticed how much those clouds (not just the high ones up where the contrails always are..) move SIDEWAYS, and how little they move up and down?

Q. 2 Do you know why that is, and why it is important?

Q. 3 Do you think, given what you can very easily observe (and from A.1 and A.2 :)),  that sampling some snow off the ground will tell you what was in a contrail at 30,000+ feet that you saw earlier?  (You tell us, how much earlier did you see the trails, and how did you document all this? (If not, why not?))

Q. 4 What other things might there be in a snow sample, and where would that other stuff come from?

And perhaps most importantly, why are you posting this on the wrong thread?


PS - Do feel free to try out that trick/technique on us.  I can't wait!  But first, how about thinking about all this stuff properly, answering some questions and dropping the ad hominems?

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:16 AM

View Postregeneratia, on 08 June 2014 - 08:42 PM, said:

[...]
I have a trick, a technique, [...]
Let me guess: its spraying (or boiling) vinegar and yelling at the chemcontrails?

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:54 AM

View Postbmk1245, on 09 June 2014 - 09:16 AM, said:

Apart from the (very sad) 'humour' - may I recommend that link for the incredible photograph it contains (scroll down..), of a con-(dis-)trail 'slicing' through a huge area of existing cirrocumulus (?) clouds, while also producing a sundog!  That's what I call being in the right place at the right time!

Edited by ChrLzs, 09 June 2014 - 11:55 AM.

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 01:00 PM

5:18, dog got covered by vinegar and starts protesting due to butt hurt.

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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:53 PM

View Postnosuchthing, on 29 May 2014 - 10:00 AM, said:

When such a well-credentialed scientist as Patrick Minnis goes about indicating contrails are linked to global warming, I tend to listen. I also don't think it is mere coincidence that since roughly the 1970s when air traffic began increasing at a rapid rate it also happens to be the decade in which people tend to notice the global warming trend coming about.

As for "chemtrails," technically speaking, contrails do contain chemicals. In that sense, regardless of how others feel about the term, contrails are "chemtrails." And in saying that, I did clearly mention within the opening post that when most people use the term "chemtrail" the context I just provided for it is not the one they have in mind.

You go on and on through the thread you hijacked about Patrick Minnis and fail to mention that he is THE ONLY ONE that has made this extreme of a claim.  Everyone else says, simply,, that further study must be made before any definitive findings can be presented.  Your constant appeal to authority is useless as Minnis doesn't have the data to back up his assertion and none of his peers agree with him.   The reason he doesn't have the data is because this is a most difficult hypothesis to test because as ChrLzs stated earlier, contrails form when the conditions are right for highalt cirrus clouds to form.

The major weaknes in your theory here is that contrails represent only a very very minor percentage of the  global cloud cover at any given time.  As an example I suggest you watch the HD ustream from the ISS http://www.ustream.t...ss-hdev-payload  (please note that the screen is black while station is in shadow) to get an idea of what I am talking about.

You really want to make this a cause-du-jour and I'd love to know why?  What is your objective?  I know that tapping into the loony masses that believe in chemtrails and combining them with the global warming fanatics would create quite a movement but for what?  To end air transport?.  The mind boggles eh?

Edited by Merc14, 10 June 2014 - 04:57 PM.

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Posted 11 June 2014 - 08:28 AM

Contrails are claimed as chemtrails by those who do not study or understand meteorology

Who is the skeptic: the realist who won't accept belief, or the believer who won't accept reality?

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Posted 13 June 2014 - 05:52 AM

So after all the kerfuffle on the other thread, nosuchthing has managed to post just one brief reply to this thread....

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 10:05 AM

View PostChrLzs, on 13 June 2014 - 05:52 AM, said:

So after all the kerfuffle on the other thread, nosuchthing has managed to post just one brief reply to this thread....
Not much left to argue about, only "by how much".

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 06:42 AM

Whoops, Monstanto announced the other day that they have created a corn that is aluminum tolerant. What do you suppose that is about?

http://www.technolog...esistant-crops/

Hmmm!

Edited by regeneratia, 20 June 2014 - 06:43 AM.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:47 AM

Ah, so it's aluminum or aluminium that they're spraying then,is it? Well, now we're getting somewhere. Have abnormal levels of aluminum been detected on the ground or in the air in any way that might bear any correlation with contrails or chemtrails?

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:48 AM

is this chemtrail dissipator that thing using vinegar? Still works then, does it? You might have thought the the Secret World Government would have been onto that by now, I'm sure they must have seen it on Yowtube.

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 10:29 AM

View Postregeneratia, on 20 June 2014 - 06:42 AM, said:

Whoops, Monstanto announced the other day that they have created a corn that is aluminum tolerant.
What do you suppose that is about?

Aluminum in the soil is a problem but the cause for the contamination isn`t a hidden distribution of aluminium
by using military/commercial aircrafts. It is recommended to investigate first before placing, or assuming, wild
speculations about the cause for soil contamination by aluminium. The per-capita consumption of AL is approx
30kgs/p.a. in the US and Europe. These 30kgs include, beside "visible" AL in technical equipment, cars and all
kinds of stuff of the daily use, also unvisible AL e.g. in cosmetics, sanitary products, color coatings and food stuff.
Informations about the issue can be found by a simple web research within seconds/minutes, example here :

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Aluminium is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust and is therefore a natural component of drinking water
and foodstuffs and is a component of many manufactured materials. Exposure of the human body to aluminium may be
by food including drinking water, fruit juices wine and beer articles of daily use that are made of aluminium, cosmetics and
pharmaceuticals such as local therapeutic agents, anti-diarrhoeal drugs or antacids. (...) Food is unquestionably the main
source of aluminium intake, whereby the source is considered either primary or secondary. The primary content is the natural
content of food caused by uptake from the geologic surrounding during growth and is for all practical purposes unavoidable.
The secondary content is the primary content plus any possible contamination from aluminium articles that come into contact
with food and additives as well as veterinary drugs, fertilisers and the air.

http://www.enveurope...content/23/1/37

If it is claimed or assumed that the soil contamination with aluminium was done deliberate by hidden distributions by using
military/commercial aircrafts, it should be asked first for what purpose exactly, and for what benefit exactly, of an assumed
hidden governmental plan. In addition, aluminium contamination of the soil is a favored "argument" of the chemtrailer
community but from an objective point of view, an additional indicator that especially this CT community is operating at the
lowest level possible in relation to scientific knowledge, facts and general education.

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