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#1    supervike

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 07:47 PM

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 08:22 PM

Now thats funny.

Some things are true, even if you dont believe them.

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Posted 30 May 2014 - 09:04 PM

I checked the figures and they do seem to be correct.


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Posted 31 May 2014 - 01:05 AM

His success is purely based on perspective and how one chooses to see the available information.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average is being propped up by the fed's Quantitative easing to infinity...they have rolled it back to around 45-50 billion a month though.  The only people gaining anything from the falsely inflated DJIA are tha bankers, the brokers and the FED

Unemployment numbers do not include those that have ran out of unemployment extensions and those that have volutarily quit looking and taken early retirement or found a doctor to put them on social security disability.  The jobs that have been created are low paying and generally part time thanks to the Affordable healthcare act

The GDP numbers I saw earlier this week was -1%.  I don't have the source so...take it for what it is worth and look it up yourself...that propaganda placard above isn't a real source either.

Consumer confidence is up?  That all depends on who you are polling.  I know a lot of people holding their money close and if they are spending, it's in preparing for bad times...not exactly a sign of confidence.


So...there you have it.

I don't believe any of those things in the OP...I have my reasons and my sources...choose for yourself.

Edited by Jeremiah65, 31 May 2014 - 01:06 AM.

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Posted 31 May 2014 - 06:48 PM

Why thank you Debra from Facebook. Not bad for a president who receives all the most pertinent information of his administration from reading the newspaper over breakfast. Too bad she forgot to mention $8 trillion and growing new national debt in 5 years, the V.A., the IRS, Benghazi, a foreign policy/foreign relations that is either limp wristed or haphazardly, the forced purchase of a third party product and forced support of a private industry and more...

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 07:08 AM

2007 Dow Jones = 14,000

Unemployment rate 2004 to 2007 >= 5.7% with an average of 4.96%

GDP Growth 2000 to 2007 = Average of 5.2%.

Deficit as % of GDP 2000 to 2007 = Average of 0.2%.

2007 Consumer Confidence = 110

Should we all say GOOD JOB GEORGE BUSH????

He does better in every single category, other then in DOW gain.

Edited by DieChecker, 08 June 2014 - 07:08 AM.

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Posted 08 June 2014 - 03:58 PM

Wasn't he president till 2008 though?


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 05:44 PM

View PostDieChecker, on 08 June 2014 - 07:08 AM, said:

2007 Dow Jones = 14,000

Unemployment rate 2004 to 2007 >= 5.7% with an average of 4.96%

GDP Growth 2000 to 2007 = Average of 5.2%.

Deficit as % of GDP 2000 to 2007 = Average of 0.2%.

2007 Consumer Confidence = 110

Should we all say GOOD JOB GEORGE BUSH????

He does better in every single category, other then in DOW gain.

Definitely good job George Bush.  Two wars in their infancy are great for the economy.  Hundreds of thousands of jobs are created almost instantly, and American pride is at an all time high.  When they start winding down is when you run into issues...factories start closing, people start losing their jobs, and people lose faith in the nation.  It doesn't matter who is in office at the time...it is inevitable.


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Posted 08 June 2014 - 11:40 PM

Wow.  You people actually it matters who the president is.  Flabbergasting.  Wake up.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 12:34 AM

View PostOverSword, on 08 June 2014 - 11:40 PM, said:

Wow.  You people actually it matters who the president is.  Flabbergasting.  Wake up.
Well you're half right.  You're right that it doesn't matter what person is President, but the Party does.  Democrats and Republicans have different masters with different agendas.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 12:53 AM

View PostGromdor, on 08 June 2014 - 03:58 PM, said:

Wasn't he president till 2008 though?
Yes, and Obama will be President till 2016.

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 03:02 AM

Yeah, wonderful work...... :clap: :clap: :clap: .  I literally could not be happier with all the "success" that this president has accomplished.  Like........... ummmmm...... well.......'crickets chirping'.......  

Move along people, nothing to see here.... Just make sure to keep applauding while the placards are still being held up telling you to.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:04 AM

None of those numbers checked out

Today:
Dow Jones 16,924
Unemployment 6.3%
GDP -1.0%
Consumer Confidence 83.0

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:42 AM

View Postsupervike, on 30 May 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

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What a load of rubbish!  The Dow is at 16 because of fed pumping and adding trillions to teh national debt we are due for a huge crash.  Real unemployment is above 12% and is only showing at 67 % because so many millions upon millions have but dropped form the employable list. We now have a record 92+ million out of work.  GDP growth was -1%  and would be much worse if Obama hadn't changed how GDP is calculated.

We have lost 2 trillion in economic activity and Obama has added more to the deficit than all the Presidents in history combined.  Foreign affairs is at an all time low and we are a laughing stock because of this fool.  The world is moving away from the dollar because the world has lost confidence in the USA after 6 years of Obama.  Well done indeed.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 09 June 2014 - 12:09 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 31 May 2014 - 01:05 AM, said:

Unemployment numbers do not include those that have ran out of unemployment extensions and those that have volutarily quit looking and taken early retirement or found a doctor to put them on social security disability.  The jobs that have been created are low paying and generally part time thanks to the Affordable healthcare act
The numbers didn't include those under Bush either.  Unless you can show the number is now calculated differently, the differences between the numbers are still meaningful.   Perspective, polling, and the Dow Jones, likewise.   Throwing these numbers around to quantify differences between Presidents though is ridiculous.   Voters thinking it's the President's job to control the economy is never going to grant us a smaller govt or produce a decent ballot.

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